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AIBU to “steal” this?

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AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 20:43

Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

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Justontherightsideofnormal · 26/06/2024 21:27

To answer your question….. Yes you are morally wrong.
Sainsbury’s sell non bio at £3.38 for a 60 wash bottle. Fab con £1.50 and smelly was ball things £3.
buying stolen baby milk from a drug dependant person is pretty low, your child benefit should cover baby milk and nappies.

you are absolutely finding his drug habit. And by buying stolen property you are convincing the person it’s ok. It is not.
if you cannot afford the children you have. Do the decent thing and get sterilised. I have two children. Wouldn’t have any more than that due to wanting to ensure they have an up where we are not scrimping for everything.

Waffle78 · 26/06/2024 21:29

AmiABadPersonn · 25/06/2024 01:30

I’m so sorry for what has happened but this is completely different. What your sibling faced is an aggravated burglary and Abh/gbh, this is theft from a shop no one is being beaten up or abused.

So do you reckon if this theif found your lost purse they would give it you back? I doubt it a theif is a theif they don't give a flying fig about anyone but themselves.

BlowDryRat · 26/06/2024 21:48

You're getting him to steal to order so you get cheap scent balls Hmm You're both scumbags.

Iamawomenphenominally · 26/06/2024 21:51

But Asda smart price /Tesco value laundry stuff if you can't afford the branded laundry stuff at full price. Have some pride and morals FFS. Save on your laundry buying choices to then pay full price for formula.

Retail theft isn't a victimless crime. It affects everyone, every customer, every member of staff. 😡

To add. This drug addict knows where you live and that you always have cash in the house and are often home alone with a baby. Pure idiocy. Addiction makes people desperate.

How would you feel if your house is burgled? How do you feel knowing you have made yourself and your kids vulnerable buying from him? How would you feel if this addict, someone's child, went from a sale at your doorstep to his dealer, overdosed and died?

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 26/06/2024 21:56

I have never done this but I can’t confidently say I wouldn’t if the chance was offered 🤷🏻‍♀️

bonzaitree · 26/06/2024 22:00

I would never ever do this personally.

ManchesterGirl2 · 26/06/2024 22:00

You're supporting theft. Which increases prices for everyone else. I'd say that's only defensible if you have no alternative, and you clearly don't need all those laundry products, just get a basics version and pay the shop for it.

Prouddoggieparent · 26/06/2024 22:00

I admit upfront I have not read all posts as simply too many, but here is my experience.

If you encourage fraternizing with junkie thieves they are now part of your world and also the world of your kids. Like it or not your kids will grow up thinking Junkie John is an alright bloke, when he is a danger to them.

It will lead to embarrassment, risk and potential legal repercussions. Beware!

pontipinemum · 26/06/2024 22:14

Stop buying the baby formula off him!! WOW I am shocked you'd risk that.

No I wouldn't buy any of the stuff but really the formula. I know you said it's sealed but you have absolutely zero idea where that's come from.

Use own brand detergent it's about 1/4 the price and just as good.

stichguru · 26/06/2024 22:20

This is weird:
"I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10."
"I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute" So you IMPLY your justification is a huge need to save money...

However clearly you are NOT needing to save money....

In Asda
fabric softener - £2 - 83 washers
29 washes of Ariel £9

So you are spending £10 week instead of £9 and a few pence. Plus I find it really hard to believe you do 29 washes a week, maybe 10? so you are buying from this man to "save money" but actually spending 3 times the amount you need!

10 washes from the man £10
10 washes from the supermarket = 2.4p on FS + 31p = 33.4p

AllTheChaos · 26/06/2024 22:23

AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 23:57

I don’t think I said this before but other users are saying if I don’t buy from him he won’t steal, but he will there’s weeks were I don’t buy stuff he still has a bag full the next time. The £10 a week is on laundry pods, softener , stain remover and laundry scent balls from persil or lenor. The balls alone are £8 in Asda. As for the baby milk it’s always sealed so I know he hasn’t contaminated it and I know others locally that buy from him too.

Ditch the softener and scent balls, don’t use pods, use an own brand liquid or powder detergent. You can buy from the shop and still spend less than £10 a week, a LOT less, which will then also pay for non/stolen baby milk.

Fedup48 · 26/06/2024 22:53

Have you lost your mind?? You are enabling a drug user to go and buy more drugs to fund their illness of addiction. What a lovely role model for your child btw.

RampantIvy · 26/06/2024 23:15

TheOnionEyes · 26/06/2024 18:18

I suppose we have to be in this lady's position to judge if it's reasonable or unreasonable.

It's easy to say we would or wouldn't do something if an opportunity, or certain circumstances do not arise for us. I would probably do things I wouldn't think of doing if I was struggling to a certain degree.

So it might not really be about funding someone's drug habit, but trying to survive somehow, especially if you have a family to support. I would say for many in this particular situation, it can be considered reasonable enough.

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She is buying unnecessary snd expensive laundry items from this low life. She isn't on her uppers.

Ialwaystry · 26/06/2024 23:23

Its an offence of handling stolen goods.. just saying

TheOnionEyes · 26/06/2024 23:31

RampantIvy · 26/06/2024 23:15

She is buying unnecessary snd expensive laundry items from this low life. She isn't on her uppers.

The second half of your comment leads me to believe that you recognise that there 'are' certain situations that would make it reasonable considering the circumstances. I personally just don't know nearly enough about this lady's life to decide whether it's reasonable or unreasonable to be honest.

Lyraloo · 27/06/2024 00:29

Rosscameasdoody · 26/06/2024 20:46

Never been on the bones of your arse have you ? Not condoning what OP is doing but it’s understandable that she’s doing whatever she needs to to take care of here family/

What utter rubbish, she doesn’t need fancy washing products to feed her family. She clearly is ‘ not on the bones of her arse’ as you so eloquently put it! She just another greedy, self entitled thief!

GrannyRose15 · 27/06/2024 00:41

I wouldn’t be buying baby milk from a dodgy source under any circumstances.

Bowies · 27/06/2024 01:01

This is a bit shit all around, I can’t believe all the ways you are trying to justify it to yourself. Your friend is right to have the ick.

If you are on a low income and you FF you can get help.

This is a risky situation to bring your baby into,

RecklessGoddess · 27/06/2024 02:40

I definitely don't blame you for buying the baby milk, the government needs to do something about the extortionate prices, that are charged for it. It's not a luxury it's a necessity for babies to live, not every mother is able to breastfeed!!!

Pearshaped20 · 27/06/2024 05:43

Of course it's wrong. You're funding his drug habit but also who do you think pays for all this shoplifting? People like me. You say you can't afford baby milk but you are 'choosing' to spend £10 week on laundry 'essentials'. I don't spend £10 month. Cut back on those and prioritise your child's welfare. I for one wouldn't want to have drug dealers knocking on my door.

llamajohn · 27/06/2024 06:46

RecklessGoddess · 27/06/2024 02:40

I definitely don't blame you for buying the baby milk, the government needs to do something about the extortionate prices, that are charged for it. It's not a luxury it's a necessity for babies to live, not every mother is able to breastfeed!!!

If she wasn't spending £40+ on crap for laundry and goodness knows what else, she'd have plenty of money for an £8-£13 tin of milk 🤷‍♀️

And if she's that hard up, she's going to be able to get milk/fruit vouchers.

There really no need to purchase stolen goods.

labamba007 · 27/06/2024 08:24

£10 for a week of laundry 🤣 not only are you breaking the law you're getting ripped off. Well done 🤣

Jewel52 · 27/06/2024 08:30

malachitegreen · 24/06/2024 20:51

why on earth do you need to spend £10 on washing?

Why are people on here so weirdly focused on her laundry habits????

Bowies · 27/06/2024 08:31

RecklessGoddess · 27/06/2024 02:40

I definitely don't blame you for buying the baby milk, the government needs to do something about the extortionate prices, that are charged for it. It's not a luxury it's a necessity for babies to live, not every mother is able to breastfeed!!!

I posted a link above your post to free FF for low income families