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AIBU to “steal” this?

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AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 20:43

Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

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Overthehillbutnotveryfar · 01/07/2024 21:02

Having re read the OP’s post I would just like to re iterate

  1. knowingly buying stolen goods is a crime.
  2. providing a market for stolen goods encourages criminal behaviour
  3. there is always a victim of crime
  4. most drug abuse is a crime and there is certainly a victim
  5. there is no justification at all for any criminal behaviour This person steals to order - can annyone really imagine that it is just always as seemingly innocent as soap powder ? What if it is your kids bike or your mother’s car ? What if your teenager gets wacked over the head for their phone ? C’mon people whether it’s Tesco, your corner shop, neighbour rich or poor. Soap powder , sausages or silver theft is theft. How the hell are you justifiers ever going to teach your children right from wrong .
Lyraloo · 02/07/2024 00:30

MariaLuna · 01/07/2024 04:17

I wouldn't have people like this around my house. Not judging.

Do you have children? That would worry me personally.

Have you actually read the post?

Lyraloo · 02/07/2024 00:31

Overthehillbutnotveryfar · 01/07/2024 21:02

Having re read the OP’s post I would just like to re iterate

  1. knowingly buying stolen goods is a crime.
  2. providing a market for stolen goods encourages criminal behaviour
  3. there is always a victim of crime
  4. most drug abuse is a crime and there is certainly a victim
  5. there is no justification at all for any criminal behaviour This person steals to order - can annyone really imagine that it is just always as seemingly innocent as soap powder ? What if it is your kids bike or your mother’s car ? What if your teenager gets wacked over the head for their phone ? C’mon people whether it’s Tesco, your corner shop, neighbour rich or poor. Soap powder , sausages or silver theft is theft. How the hell are you justifiers ever going to teach your children right from wrong .

The voice of reason, no more to be said.

OneTC · 02/07/2024 00:42

I disagree that there's never any justification. But the justification is never scent balls

jsterr1 · 02/07/2024 01:16

CaptainMyCaptain · 30/06/2024 10:59

It's harsh to berate someone about contraception for a baby which now exists and I don't think the OP is genuinely 'on the bones of her arse' as a pp put it anyway. She just wants unnecessary branded goods cheaply and is prepared to buy goods she knows to be stolen and that is a criminal offence.

Except if she can't afford one, she shouldn't have been so irresponsible to have one. And then try to justify theft because of her irresponsibility? I stand by my statement.

jsterr1 · 02/07/2024 01:24

Runnerinthenight · 30/06/2024 22:03

Bollocks. She is making an active choice not to. Anyone who thinks that's ok is just as bad as she is. Stand by what you like. It's rotten to the core!

Maybe read my original statement before huffing and puffing, banging your cane on the ground.

jsterr1 · 02/07/2024 02:10

NothingVenturedAndAllThat · 30/06/2024 19:57

My mum couldn't have fed and clothed us if not for the local shoplifters.

My mom, the oldest child of 5 was sent to the store with 7$ to feed a family of 7 for a week. She found a way. Theft wasn't one of those ways.

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/07/2024 06:52

jsterr1 · 02/07/2024 01:16

Except if she can't afford one, she shouldn't have been so irresponsible to have one. And then try to justify theft because of her irresponsibility? I stand by my statement.

Circumstances can change and you can't 'not have' a baby that is already there. There is nothing the OP can do about it now so its pointless to point it out at this stage..

She is absolutely wrong to receive stolen goods though.

jsterr1 · 02/07/2024 08:07

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/07/2024 06:52

Circumstances can change and you can't 'not have' a baby that is already there. There is nothing the OP can do about it now so its pointless to point it out at this stage..

She is absolutely wrong to receive stolen goods though.

Yeah, if only there were a way to PREVENT pregnancy. Someone should invent something like that.

I understand that things change. From the info we've been given, that change was a baby. That she can't really afford. Hence, she shouldn't have had it. Because relying on stolen goods IS wrong

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/07/2024 08:11

jsterr1 · 02/07/2024 08:07

Yeah, if only there were a way to PREVENT pregnancy. Someone should invent something like that.

I understand that things change. From the info we've been given, that change was a baby. That she can't really afford. Hence, she shouldn't have had it. Because relying on stolen goods IS wrong

Yeah, but you can't prevent a baby that has already been born and things can change after they are born.

There's no point discussing it with you and it's not relevant to the OP's question about the morality of what she is doing..

jsterr1 · 02/07/2024 08:22

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/07/2024 08:11

Yeah, but you can't prevent a baby that has already been born and things can change after they are born.

There's no point discussing it with you and it's not relevant to the OP's question about the morality of what she is doing..

Except it's relevant to choices she made. Choices she shouldn't have. Any of them. What you're saying isn't all that far from her justifications for buying stolen goods. Just because she had the baby, doesn't mean she should have. Just like Just because she can't afford (or simply doesn't care) laundry detergent and baby formula because aforementioned selfish choices, doesn't mean she should buy stolen goods because they cost less.

T1Dmama · 02/07/2024 15:41

milkysmum · 24/06/2024 20:48

I'd buy stuff, as would most people I know to be honest.

Not a chance in hell would I encourage a this type of person to knock on my door!

T1Dmama · 02/07/2024 15:56

AmiABadPersonn · 25/06/2024 01:30

I’m so sorry for what has happened but this is completely different. What your sibling faced is an aggravated burglary and Abh/gbh, this is theft from a shop no one is being beaten up or abused.

Why ask opinions if you’re only going to take on board the people’s who are equally as immoral as you.

I wouldn’t visit you knowing you encouraged addicts to knock your door.

Lyraloo · 02/07/2024 18:56

milkysmum
then you and the people you know are scumbags as well!

Overthehillbutnotveryfar · 02/07/2024 20:39

Please also consider all the current debate about shoplifting, how it has become normalised, how shop workers have to face it day in day out and experience abuse when they try to tackle it . Your weekly tenners worth of scented laundry products are part of this and you are naive beyond words to say that there is no victim here or that no one has been abused - how on earth do you know ? . There are many wrongs in our society and we live in a horrible selfish time and of course people want a better life but this is not the way. I don’t know your life and you have to make your own budgeting choices but I think you don’t need to make this choice . Are you not fearful also of how vulnerable this makes you to potential further abuse ?

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