Starmer, JKR, what's most important to most women 2?

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@pleasehelpwi3 said it best.

Happy birthday! We really won't wheesht, either.

I'm a woman, I don't iron.

That might be the stupidest thing I've ever read on here 🤯

@SergeantDawkins do you think ironing makes you “female” ?

I haven’t answered because I have no expertise in the area of elderly care. And I think each issue should be dealt with with care, consideration and understanding not just banging on about it on mumsnet.

They are. What other party is pledging to halve violence against women and girls? What other party has a plan to deal with the rape backlog?

Honestly. You don't want to vote for them, fine, your choice. But don't just make shit up.

Who is "the party of women's rights"? Reform? The Tories? Don't make me laugh. Packed to the rafters with actual men who hate women. Take money off misogynists. Praise misogynists.

It's pretty laughable at this point to be pointing to Labour as the problem 😂

So my dh and ds are women because they iron their own shirts?

And what are we to conclude from this - woman means a person who irons? 🫠

No, not yet unless I've missed the predatory lesbians.

We've had the debunked suicide claim though so we're close.

Ill let my dad know

My husband does most of our ironing (limited to school uniform really). He was also a SAHP. Is he a <gasps> woman?!

Hurrah!

We must let JK Rowling know that she had it wrong all this time!

Absolutely not. Women are adult female humans. That is all.

I expect that'll be quite the shock to him 😱

At least it's not circular for a change! 🤣

😀

You couldn’t make this up. I iron therefore I am a woman.

I have to assume this is an MRA taking the piss and go to bed, at this point.

What?

Is all this posting just coming from regressive stereotypes

No we're not. We're saying they're male. Which they are. In every cell of their bodies. And, as I keep saying, the EVIDENCE is there that they have exactly the same criminal patterns as other men. Not women. That's extremely important when it comes to the reasons why we had to have single sex spaces in some circumstances.

I'm not sure why you keep trying to equate recognising this with the homophobia of old. (Well, I do. It's a forced teaming strategy as per Denton's document) Were you around at that time? I was. You are aware, yes, that there is no evidence that gay men were any more likely to be sex offenders than straight men? Especially against women. But that there IS quite a bit of evidence that (majority heterosexual) of men who identify as "trans women" ARE as much of a threat to women as men who don't identify as women. And claiming saying so is "bigotry" is slur, being used to good effect by extremely manipulative people, in order to shut down anyone pointing out the unpalatable truth.

Strange how you don't seem to care about disregarding women's rights, feelings and existence. Not to mention our safety and the entire history of us gaining our rights. It isn't a human right to identify as something you're not and then force everyone who is actually in the group you claim you are to agree that you're the same as them and they can't have anything to themselves. Particularly when the whole reason we had to have single sex spaces was because of the violent or sexually abusive behaviour of some men. From the evidence, the "trans women" who are most insistent that they should be given access to the spaces where we are vulnerable don't diverge from that. Their crime patterns do not match women's but men's. You really need to get that into your head.

That's all there is!

Oh god it’s a stereotypical example.
some people are so literal 🤦🏻‍♀️

This is Counsellor Ward's video.
https://x.com/MandyClareTERF/status/1804570461822767154

Some people are so bloody literal. No wonder we can’t use any nuance to deal with this.