Starmer, JKR, what's most important to most women 2?

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@pleasehelpwi3 said it best.

And we're back to the Schrödinger's women's whose point.

This can't be simultaneously totally unimportant to the voting public, but also significant enough to throw an election they seem to have in the bag. Pick a lane.

I always think it's very suss if people want to take attention away from things that they know are very important.

Have a look on Twitter. One of those GC Reform voters you’ve seen on there may have linked to it.

If Starmers inability to speak clearly about this issue is the one thing that might threaten his massive lead, hed be an idiot not to do something about it.

His supporters can blame women, but its really all his fault.

I get that, and haven't said that's not a valid view. I don't feel I can vote for them personally, but am not voting for any right wing parties.

Edit: my comment "You've been had" was not about voting Labour. It was about the many false accusations that have been made about Rowling and her motivations, and claims that she "doesn't care" about anything else, "she's too rich", "she's forgotten" etc. They are blatantly false, but the smears have been spread everywhere. This is different from "disagreeing with her stance" on women's rights. It's accusing her of feelings and motivations and actions that she simply doesn't have and hasn't taken.

Me too. My issue with JKR wading in is the timing. It seems calculated to harm Labour, if she wanted to put pressure on to change direction there are other ways to do it.

JKR you are doing this all wrong, you can't speak up now this is not the right time, we might get round to it later and we might listen to you if you just do it and say it differently and if you speaking out now results in us losing then it is all your fault you pesky woman

Un fucking believable.

You don't think JKR has been putting pressure on in many different ways for a long time?

You are so desperate not to have anyone harm the credentials of the likely next leader of this country Cassie aren't you?

How about the likely next leader of this country shows that he is actually capable of listening to women without calling them toxic for bringing the matter up and going all wobbly lipped and teary eyed and calling the trans community the most vulnerable group in society, ever, ever, ever in order to shut down women's concerns.

How about the likely next leader of the country doesn't have to check out what a previous Labour PM said and agree with that rather than the many, many, women including one of his own MPs who said the same thing?

If the issue is unimportant, it won't matter if women talk about it.

If the issue matters, women should talk about it.

What is harming Labour is them taking this position in the first place, not people pointing it out.

Of course it is. Why wouldn’t it be it’s his policies

No. I'm suggesting JKR choosing to use her platform at this moment to suggest women don't vote Labour might have unintended consequences.

No, she said she wouldn't vote Labour and gave the reasons why. Do you really think JKR is that powerful that she can influence every other person in the UK's voting intentions?

Couldn’t agree more: ”His supporters can blame women, but it’s really all his fault.” Tbf this isn’t restricted to Labour, but across the board.

I’ve lost count of the times on Twitter/X where (usually male) commentators assert that, surely, there are “more important issues to discuss like ‘the economy, education, health’ etc” - forgetting that women are participants in society.

As over half the population, it’s not too much to expect that women are consulted and represented adequately.

Dawkins said I was disgusting because I said women have two X chromosomes and men have an X and a Y and you can’t change that.

Yeh it’s an odd one got an age we’ve been told no one cares

But an well known author can now shift a GE outcome

She did well, the timing is spot on

51% of the population how else do you make a stand - vote POW - both parties need a good kicking now and again

But an well known author can now shift a GE outcome

In your dreams.

Some people are bad at following conversations on here. They can look at my response to this.

Well that's the point. Why all the panic about one woman's view?

Exactly. The point went over their head.

We’re in agreement

Crikey.

Dawkins? Being a poster?

Just to go back to the reform point:
https://x.com/janeclarejones/status/1804456760813490388

Yes, 'SergeantDawkins', you can expand the comment thread to see the conversation, or part of it.

That lady being a prominent GC who is NOT voting reform.

Who knows who these people are in her mentions ...

I’m not remotely panicked about it. In an election in which one of the main parties hasn’t put a significant foot wrong and is 20+ points ahead in the polls it’ll take something a lot bigger than this to affect the result. Young people whose natural inclination is to vote for minority parties are lending Labour their votes this time. The mood of the country is predominantly to GTTO.

Ah yes.

This person was coming across like a cult member. Calling people disgusting for stating facts is on another level.

You may not be, read back and you'll see other posters are.

As it happens I totally, 100% agree with you. Labour have this in the bag.