To think that the majority of trans people are neurodivergent

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...and I sort of think it's a form of neurodivergence in itself.

By the way I'm trans affirmative.

I don't think I've met a trans person who I thought was neurotypical.

But that sounds like a generational thing, as many others on this thread have described.

@RedToothBrush that's a really good post and informative.

Douglas Murray I feel has made some really good observations on the subject and his issue with the pro trans agenda as a gay man.

I can absolutely see the problem now with the ' LGBTQ' banner as opposed to LGB.

This is exactly why I identified as transgender for so much of my teens & young adulthood.

Friendship circles of transgender people feel very special. Like you're not alone. As a neurodivergent person that is very very powerful.

I now don't identify as transgender and whilst I am happier as a woman I am also the loneliest I have ever been. I don't fit in with my neurotypical peers and it's really, really difficult.

That was what I said after I said that I thought it had been reclaimed. I didn't just say "it's not a slur".

And ... your point is what?

Older generations views are not relevant? 😵‍💫

From an earlier point on the thread. I have an Aspergers diagnosis and I genuinely don't care if anyone calls me ASD, uses person first language or not (I'm not actually sure which way round us ment to be offensive), I just can't stand this deliberate thin-skinnedness and offense seeking.
If someone has no bad intention, accept that as good enough.

That the word has two different meanings to two different generations

I don't and neither do you. I gave my opinion. You can tell because I said "I thought it had been reclaimed", not "It has been reclaimed". That's based on the opinion of the gay people that I know. I have no idea who you know or what they think.

So to say it as been 'reclaimed' with no further qualifications is inaccurate then,

I can well believe that most young girls who believe they are trans are ND or have a background of trauma, or both.

Middle aged straight men though, no. Other issues at play there.

Yep your story tallies with the girls I teach. What I wonder is why did becoming trans become the” thing to do” all of a sudden, if you know what I mean. Or do you think actually there never used to be any way to make you feel less of an outsider until trans came along. When I was a child in the 90’s and 2000’s no one even knew this word really, it was more understood as transvestite. When did it become mainstream?

Not read the whole thread, sorry.
Just jumped on with a quick name change for anominity.
I’m a hetero woman in my 50s and spent my youth and my adult life with gender identity doubts. I never discussed this with anyone as there just wasn’t the language then. In the last few years I’ve realised I am 100% inattentive ADHD. I’m not sure about autism.
Now I have a 15 yr old diagnosed AuDHD teen born female who suffers from social isolation and believes they are trans.
I’m so relieved I grew up when I was able to ignore the gender identity doubts. Today I’d have definitely identified as trans too. However I was able to find my own identity as a non-conformist, strong, successful woman with lots of more male traits. I won’t declare pronouns as I don’t like to be categorised.
Unfortunately it looks like my teen won’t have the same freedom in a more gendered society in which they feel it necessary to be within a defined group.

I never said that. I said it was a contested word but one that many used in a positive sense.

Could be that ND forms as a part of constantly hiding / splitting your authentic self

Yes I can see this with my son tbh.

He's quite horrified and disgusted by it all and confused by the possibility of even holding hands with a female; I always support and validate those feelings. They are just slightly different.
He also doesn't seem to have any interest in the various ' crushes' upon him. I think his protestations regards liking all these older attractive ladies in the media are probably an attempt to fit in now I think about it. Also the influence of YouTube 😬

As a mental health professional working in FE that is definitely my experience and thought so for a long time.

@wellington77 in my experience it's easier to self identify as transgender than it is to self identify as neurodivergent. In order to say that you're ND it is thought that you need a medical diagnosis which is incredibly difficult to get as a teenage girl due to stereotypes of ND in females.

It's much easier for a group of young teenagers to say 'I'm non binary' instead and signal that comminality in a way that won't have them potentially gatekept from their peers. Not that it's easy identifying as transgender but it's easier to find community from it.

Yup it's easier to mask when that mask has a whole entire different name & gender

@Fantapops I was about to ask why you didn't feel identifying as ND and being part of an ND community was enough. But you have already addressed that above in your reply post.

Yeah I didn't have an autism diagnosis until a few years into identifying as trans but I also think autistic teenagers don't really band together in the same way as groups of teenagers who identify as trans.

For many older gay people, "queer" is an offensive term and it's not hard to figure out why. It was an insult hurled at gay people, often with violence and brutality.

Yes, many younger people use the term to describe themselves. Yes, "queer theory" is a thing in academia too .... But the term remains very contentious and for some, hurtful and offensive.