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Are people actually insane?

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peopleareinsane · 22/06/2024 09:32

Yesterday at my son's sports day a family brought an bully type dog onto the field in amongst the kids activities. Am I mad in thinking this is just twatish behaviour. Not all kids like dogs and they had it amongst everything, put me totally on edge.

I'm now at my daughters ballet class and sat in the wait room full of babies and toddlers and a dad has brought what I am sure is an XL bully in this room. It's tugging on the lead wanting to get off and is getting increasingly agitated.

What would you do? Are some people total fucking morons or aibu?

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SpindleyDindley · 24/06/2024 16:55

Not many people are fucking morons.

Although probably over 95% of Bully XL owners are fucking morons.

CellophaneFlower · 24/06/2024 17:06

SpindleyDindley · 24/06/2024 16:55

Not many people are fucking morons.

Although probably over 95% of Bully XL owners are fucking morons.

The other 5% are dead 🙈

Ifeelsuchafool · 24/06/2024 19:36

Families always used to bring their dogs to sports days when my kids were at school. It was a full day affair with a break for picnic lunches so could hardly leave them at home all day. Nobody owned that kind of dog though 😕

SpicyMoth · 24/06/2024 22:59

CellophaneFlower · 22/06/2024 22:44

None of your links work.

The difference with XL bullies is that they're bred to kill. I know German shepherds are also aggressive, mainly through poor breeding that's led to them having a screw loose, but there's a much higher population of those compared to XLs yet there still isn't as many of those killing people in recent years. Check out the stats of killer dog breeds over the past few years.

If a dog kills, no matter the breed, it will get reported on. Nobody is hiding these stories to make the XL bully kills seem 'worse'.

Edited

Apologies, not sure what went wrong there- hopefully these ones work?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dog-walker-mauled-dalmatian-horror-31479988 - 51 yo man

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2846739.stm - toddler

Dog walker mauled by 'Dalmatian' in horror attack that left gruesome injuries

The 51-year-old victim has sustained gruesome injuries following the attack, which happened as he walked his own dog - a Weimaraner - in Burslem, Stoke-on-Trent

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dog-walker-mauled-dalmatian-horror-31479988

WhatsUpNowThen · 24/06/2024 23:48

I've nothing against dogs I just dont think they should be left alone in a room with young children

I know some really nice lovable dogs. I've had one. I've known them turn on a threepenny bit. Our own lovely family dog went nuts and bit my brother. It was a small dog. There seemed to be no reason it turned on him. It just did. After 7 years of being just an ordinary family dog it just took against my brother suddenly.
We got it off him. It wasn't big enough to do a massive amount of damage.
It was just like it suddenly hated him. He was the one who fed it and took it for walks. He fed it and it followed him everywhere. He was its main person.

But on this one day, he moved his foot when the dog was laying on it and it went berserk. Dog was fine with everybody else. Once we got it off him, and him out of the room it was fine again. But you can't live like that, can you?

A dog is a dog is a dog. It's not a person to reason with. It's not a fur baby.
It's an animal. And even after a 7 year spell of calm, it can be unpredictable.
Anyone allowing a dog near their baby or toddler is taking a huge risk.

I don't really give much credence to claims that "my dog is a big softie. Wouldn't do that" They can, and they absolutely bloody well do.

I loved my dog. Don't know what made it turn. Could have been an illness or anything. One thing I do know is that I would never EVER have a dog alongside young children. Not ever. Not with my experience of knowing how quickly they can turn.

WhatsUpNowThen · 25/06/2024 00:58

I think you were incredibly unlucky to have two such similar incidents happen in a two day period

Well perhaps you don't get out much. I've had similar incidents in a period of 4 hours.

A gated playground, with a bit sign saying NO DOGS,

So a young lad about 18ish brings his small siblings to play there.
And the family dog, which he lets go of.

I say to him "The dog is not allowed in here, really"

He ignores me. Another woman comes along and says "This is a kids playground. Dogs are not allowed in here"

He ignores that too.

Then, a huge 18 stone tattooed beardy bloke who had erstwhile been leaning against the fence watching his daughters going down the slides, and who had obviously been watching, comes up and says.. . .

"Get that fucking dog out of here. NOW!!"
Not in a friendly manner.

Brave ignorant 18 year old scuttled off shitless.

Neither me or the other woman persuaded him. It was only the threat of a big burly bloke and possible violence that sent him off on his way.

So then I went up a local footpath, and a woman was walking 2 dogs.
They were untrained and hurled themselves at me and my husband.
They were not unfriendly. I wasn't worried that they were in attack mode.
But their enthusiasm was unwelcome. I do not like dogs and am allergic to their snot.

They actually "hurled" themselves at us. Their dog bodies actually hit my husband's body above his waist. It was MAD! I stepped back. My husband took the brunt of it. I turned away and escaped the worst.

I go for a walk, and I don't mind at all well trained dogs walking by. Having a sniff. A well controlled dog having a sniff at you. All fine. But when they see you from a distance, go into alert mode, and then make a beeline for you, and then hurl themselves at you, barking, then you have to start to wonder if their owner has any control at all.

Clue: They don't

So to be honest, I wouldn't find it at all surprising if the pp had 2 dog incidents in two days. I've had 4 and more in just one day.

Bought my house in the 80s. Lots of field walks. The occasional person with a well trained dog.

Now: The fields are full of barky dogs. Farmers complaining that the dogs are responsible for their sheep miscarrying. Fewer lambs being born. A random dog just running about loose and barking can trigger abortion.

Some dog owners are idiots.

WhatsUpNowThen · 25/06/2024 01:18

Families always used to bring their dogs to sports days when my kids were at school. It was a full day affair with a break for picnic lunches so could hardly leave them at home all day. Nobody owned that kind of dog though

Weird. I've got 3 kids all five years apart. And have attended loads of sports days over decades. Nobody, anywhere, ever, brought a dog along.
I never had a dog, so obviously I didn't have one to bring.

If other families had a dog, they most definitely did not bring them.
In all the sports days, in all my life, my sports days experience must span over 40 years, my own children, my nieces and nephews and my grandchildren. I have never, not ever, seen a dog at a school sports day.

And to be honest, I put that down to most people in my area having a modicum of common sense.

BlackFriYay · 25/06/2024 08:27

Opinionwontchangeluv · 23/06/2024 03:51

Exactly this. I live in London and visit playground all the time working with primary school children. Never seen a big dog let alone a bully dog in children's playgrounds or sports days in 12years but okay op 😄

Well I live in London and I absolutely have seen a parent with an XL running loose in the children's play area, it was the reason we turned and left before we'd even opened the gate.

Unsurprisingly, we were not the only ones who took one look and thought "fuck that"

It might be hard for you to comprehend but more goes on in the world than what you happen to witness.

Allshallbewell2021 · 25/06/2024 08:57

We are very lucky around here generally but I still am amazed that one of the brightest women I know has a big black lab that jumps up on my legs. It's extraordinary that people don't train their dogs.

But I think it's a psychological blind spot. A lot of people have dogs to meet an emotional need in themselves just not looking hard enough at the rigors of responsible dog ownership. It's a huge commitment to train a dog properly.

Another friend who is one of my favourite people has a huge dog she cannot control so he yanks her around and hysterically digs random places up sending showers of earth everywhere. Also you can't pick up diarrhea dog shit can you? And he always seems to have the runs 🤦‍♀️.

I love cats but I am uncertain about the ethics of having a pet that inevitably shits in all your neighbours' gardens. How is that ok? 🤔

CellophaneFlower · 25/06/2024 17:54

Allshallbewell2021 · 25/06/2024 08:57

We are very lucky around here generally but I still am amazed that one of the brightest women I know has a big black lab that jumps up on my legs. It's extraordinary that people don't train their dogs.

But I think it's a psychological blind spot. A lot of people have dogs to meet an emotional need in themselves just not looking hard enough at the rigors of responsible dog ownership. It's a huge commitment to train a dog properly.

Another friend who is one of my favourite people has a huge dog she cannot control so he yanks her around and hysterically digs random places up sending showers of earth everywhere. Also you can't pick up diarrhea dog shit can you? And he always seems to have the runs 🤦‍♀️.

I love cats but I am uncertain about the ethics of having a pet that inevitably shits in all your neighbours' gardens. How is that ok? 🤔

I know a secondary school teacher who has a massive cane corso rescue from abroad. Came with cropped ears and no idea of history. She either was pregnant/had a newborn at the time and a 3 year old. She's going away for a week and leaving it alone, with someone popping in to feed it and let it out in a small garden.

Some people really are insane.

peopleareinsane · 29/06/2024 09:17

An update. No sign of dog at the ballet class so far this morning.

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