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To think that owning your own home doesn't give you the right to be rude and entitled?

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k2493 · 20/06/2024 23:17

AIBU to think that owning your own home doesn't give you the right to be rude and entitled?

We have been having issues with our neighbours and how entitled they appear to be for years now. i.e please stop allowing your guests to park where they block our driveway.

We have asked the agent but we keep getting told try to have a discussion.

Well I finally had enough and politely asked must you constantly allow your guests to block our driveway? It's making our life very difficult. The response straight away was Do you own your property? Nope. Well we do.

What the actual? I am genuinely confused. Does it really matter in this day and age whether you rent or own? DH says he's a twat because it should have nothing to do with money but if he wants to play that game, we pay 1.5 times more in rent than he does for his mortgage so he needs to get a life.

Also I appreciate there have been some bad tenants in the past but there's a lot of us good ones and I appreciate not all home owners are this bias but surely this is bang out of order lording it over and thinking it's there god given right because they own and we don't. I work with clients needing housing all the time so I know how severe the housing shortage is at the moment. Surely anyone who is keeping a roof over there head at the moment is doing a great job mortgage, tenant or otherwise. Why do we deserve less respect because we are renting.

OP posts:
LaughingCat · 21/06/2024 00:20

We own and I haven’t the foggiest clue whether my neighbours rent or own…and I care even less! They sound like twats and their home ownership is just the excuse they need to lord it. Sorry, OP, they sound like dreadful neighbours!

Scarletttulips · 21/06/2024 00:24

We own, several neighbours rent. I can’t see a difference between us.

We all get on just fine.

I suppose some see it as not being as invested in the area, or use renting as a short term hop, rather than a long term home.

I have friends who rent and are more likely to be asked to leave because the LL wants to sell - it costs them a lot of time and money to keep moving. Awful really.

GoneFishingToday · 21/06/2024 00:29

Next time he's openly obnoxious to you OP, I'd be inclined to remind him that a dispute with his neighbours could make it VERY difficult for him if he ever wants to sell HIS home, (he'd have to declare a dispute with his neighbours on the sale paperwork) so he might just want to think about that, before he causes you problems in the future! Ignorant pig that he is!

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 21/06/2024 00:31

GoneFishingToday · 21/06/2024 00:29

Next time he's openly obnoxious to you OP, I'd be inclined to remind him that a dispute with his neighbours could make it VERY difficult for him if he ever wants to sell HIS home, (he'd have to declare a dispute with his neighbours on the sale paperwork) so he might just want to think about that, before he causes you problems in the future! Ignorant pig that he is!

Genius

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 21/06/2024 00:34

Complaints made to the letting agent as our bins weren’t brought in on time

That seems to be a common thing that these loonies do when it comes to ridiculously trivial matters that they somehow take exception to: report you to your landlord/letting agent, like you're a toddler and they're your mum.

It's as bonkers as trying to report somebody who is buying with a mortgage to their mortgage lender because they haven't mowed their lawn quite as soon as you would like!

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 21/06/2024 00:36

GoneFishingToday · 21/06/2024 00:29

Next time he's openly obnoxious to you OP, I'd be inclined to remind him that a dispute with his neighbours could make it VERY difficult for him if he ever wants to sell HIS home, (he'd have to declare a dispute with his neighbours on the sale paperwork) so he might just want to think about that, before he causes you problems in the future! Ignorant pig that he is!

I like it!

"Of course, WE have the privilege of renting, so this wouldn't be a problem for us; but I can see how homeowners would easily find themselves in a much less advantageous situation!"

CassandraWebb · 21/06/2024 00:37

When I was renting our neighbours didn't even bother checking with me before cutting a beautiful tree down that was in our garden. It was in full blossom as well!

They just looked baffled when I asked why they didn't check.

They regretted it when I told the landlord and he started legal action and they had to pay nearly £10k to replace it.

(They cut it down because they didn't like blossom landing on their cars!)

CassandraWebb · 21/06/2024 00:38

GoneFishingToday · 21/06/2024 00:29

Next time he's openly obnoxious to you OP, I'd be inclined to remind him that a dispute with his neighbours could make it VERY difficult for him if he ever wants to sell HIS home, (he'd have to declare a dispute with his neighbours on the sale paperwork) so he might just want to think about that, before he causes you problems in the future! Ignorant pig that he is!

Absolutely!!!

No sensible home owner gets into a dispute because they have to declare it when they sell.

lilybronte · 21/06/2024 00:41

My old neighbour thought he was entitled to my back garden because he owned and he took advantage of the disabled man who lived there prior to us.

He even managed to connect his water to our pipes before we even moved in.

Glad to be out of there.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 21/06/2024 01:17

These are the exact same twats who give other home owners grief because "I've lived here longer than you", so they think they bloody own the street. We have one of them.

Honestly, they're just dicks.

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 21/06/2024 01:20

CassandraWebb · 21/06/2024 00:37

When I was renting our neighbours didn't even bother checking with me before cutting a beautiful tree down that was in our garden. It was in full blossom as well!

They just looked baffled when I asked why they didn't check.

They regretted it when I told the landlord and he started legal action and they had to pay nearly £10k to replace it.

(They cut it down because they didn't like blossom landing on their cars!)

This is beautiful karma 👏

DenimHiker · 21/06/2024 03:34

How the hell do you know how much his mortgage payment is? Why do you even care?

shittestusernameever · 21/06/2024 04:35

@OnTheRightSideOfGeography racism? What? 🙄

Floogal · 21/06/2024 06:20

Worse is when you live in a flat and one or more of the neighbours owns. Had one spiteful cow who was really like Mrs Hobbs. Had another guy who would rummage through the rubbish and recycling and leave passive aggressive notes up starting with 'tenants'.

Sillystrumpet · 21/06/2024 06:35

It’s nothing to do with renting or owning, he’s just a twat, surprised you don’t know this and have to ask.

in addition I’m not sure the fact you pay more is the positive you’re making out.

paasll · 21/06/2024 06:43

Tell them they might own their property but they don’t own yours so they need to stop blocking access to it

Moonlitwalk · 21/06/2024 06:44

CassandraWebb · 21/06/2024 00:37

When I was renting our neighbours didn't even bother checking with me before cutting a beautiful tree down that was in our garden. It was in full blossom as well!

They just looked baffled when I asked why they didn't check.

They regretted it when I told the landlord and he started legal action and they had to pay nearly £10k to replace it.

(They cut it down because they didn't like blossom landing on their cars!)

This is amazing- has brightened my day already!

Your neighbours are vile OP but thats their personality not due to owning their home. They would have been twats when they rented too. I own my house and have had neighbours park over my drive constantly as it's right next to the downs so people walk their dogs there. It's unbelievably inconsiderate.

Our next door neighbour tried to lord it over us because she'd lived there longer than we did which was so stupid. As if living there longer gives you the right to tell your neighbours what to do- karma got her in the end as she had to move out and into a small flat. I often wonder how she reacted when her new neighbours told her she couldn't do anything as she hadn't lived there as long as them!

swayingpalmtree · 21/06/2024 06:46

we pay 1.5 times more in rent than he does for his mortgage so he needs to get a life

He sounds truly awful but what on earth has this got to do with anything? This is just as silly isnt it?

wastingtimeonhere · 21/06/2024 07:33

Try being council tenants to boot. We had one whose son would shoot his air gun out of the bedroom window at our son who he was bullying at school too. 'you can't do nuffink, my dad owns our house'

Another house, neighbour tried telling us what type of car we could have. Complained about noise, until council told him there wasn't a problem, it was the house construction but if he wanted sound proofing he could pay for it.
Complained we had a caravan. ( we had already checked, and we could have it. )

greencartbluecart · 21/06/2024 07:35

Just remind them that a neighbour dispute will knock thousands off the value of their house

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 21/06/2024 07:37

Get the council enforcement people to come and tow them. Every time.

Keepthosenamesgoing · 21/06/2024 07:40

greencartbluecart · 21/06/2024 07:35

Just remind them that a neighbour dispute will knock thousands off the value of their house

This ! You're tenants so no skin off your nose but definitely affects him !

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 21/06/2024 07:45

Every single time someone blocks your driveway I'd go knock on the door.

"Could you move your car please?"
Even if you just drive around the block.

Next time
"Could you move your car please?"

Do it enough times and the guests will cop on. He's probably told them it's ok to park wherever as you won't be going anywhere. I suggest you go somewhere, every-single-time.

SpringKitten · 21/06/2024 07:53

@TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre i would do this too. “I’m blocked in by by your guests, I’ll wait here while you fetch them to move their vehicle.” If they reply “we will move it in five minutes” I’d repeat “I need to use my driveway now, so that won’t work - I’ll wait here.”

And if they re parked across the drive, I would ring again as soon as they did, and again drive around the block.

I would definitely also contact LL and explain and ask for a legal letter to be sent to neighbour explaining that if drive is repeatedly blocked, cars will be towed with no notice and expense charged to neighbour starting from dd.mm.yyyy.

You have the same right to access your property as houseowners.

if ll says no to sending a letter, explain you will otherwise be forced to raise a dispute with police and local authority and this means it would show up if ll ever wishes to sell the property. Ll may not like that.

decionsdecisions62 · 21/06/2024 07:54

A few people see rental houses on their street as a negative I'm afraid. They think it dents their property value. Quite often but not always it does. Very few people then go on to verbally abuse those that are living there. They are psychos.

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