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To think that owning your own home doesn't give you the right to be rude and entitled?

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k2493 · 20/06/2024 23:17

AIBU to think that owning your own home doesn't give you the right to be rude and entitled?

We have been having issues with our neighbours and how entitled they appear to be for years now. i.e please stop allowing your guests to park where they block our driveway.

We have asked the agent but we keep getting told try to have a discussion.

Well I finally had enough and politely asked must you constantly allow your guests to block our driveway? It's making our life very difficult. The response straight away was Do you own your property? Nope. Well we do.

What the actual? I am genuinely confused. Does it really matter in this day and age whether you rent or own? DH says he's a twat because it should have nothing to do with money but if he wants to play that game, we pay 1.5 times more in rent than he does for his mortgage so he needs to get a life.

Also I appreciate there have been some bad tenants in the past but there's a lot of us good ones and I appreciate not all home owners are this bias but surely this is bang out of order lording it over and thinking it's there god given right because they own and we don't. I work with clients needing housing all the time so I know how severe the housing shortage is at the moment. Surely anyone who is keeping a roof over there head at the moment is doing a great job mortgage, tenant or otherwise. Why do we deserve less respect because we are renting.

OP posts:
LettuceTruss · 20/06/2024 23:22

We had neighbours like this when we were renting. Two lots actually. One told her daughter not to play with my DC - “the tenants’ kids, they can’t afford to buy their own home.” They were like yours - blocked our driveway, refused to take in parcels. It worked both ways. We never returned any balls that came over the fence. I’d never met people like this before.

dudsville · 20/06/2024 23:24

Home ownership isn't what makes them jerks, it's about their personality.

Stripeysocks1981 · 20/06/2024 23:25

They sound like absolute wankers. Being homeowners doesn’t mean they own the fucking street. Hate people like this!

GoneFishingToday · 20/06/2024 23:27

Sadly OP it seems that your neighbour is a twat of the highest order! I hate people like this, it's just so unnecessary. We own our house outright, but it would never occur to me to point that out to anyone, just to make a point that I think I'm better than they are. Can you possibly play him at his own game, and make parking for his house/guests difficult? I bet everything he has is bought on credit!!

k2493 · 20/06/2024 23:28

LettuceTruss Thankyou. I thought it was just me.

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Everythingiscalmfornow · 20/06/2024 23:29

So you are basically being told by your neighbours that you are second class citizens because you rent your home and they own theirs?
An absolutely disgusting attitude.
Of course no one should be blocking your driveway. Owning or renting has no bearing on your rights as regards this.
What horrible snobs your neighbours are. You shouldn't let idiotic people like that put you down. You are as good as them. Better in fact because their attitude shows them up for what they are.

FlamingoFloss · 20/06/2024 23:32

What an absolute twat!! I rented for years and now we own with a mortgage - not once have a I considered myself or anyone else better or less than anyone else regardless of if renting or owning! That thought is just absolutely ludicrous!
he does not own your home - you pay for it and have a right to park unobstructed. I’d get back onto your agent. So sorry you have a knob like this for a neighbour

Wishitsnows · 20/06/2024 23:32

You probably pay more per month than they do!

FOJN · 20/06/2024 23:32

I believe it's illegal for them to obstruct your driveway. If you are renting you have the same right wrt to being able to access your drive as you would if you owned the house.

Your neighbours are dicks. Tell them it's illegal and they need to stop doing it and if they take no notice then ask your agent what they plan to do to make sure you have full use of the amenities you're paying for.

I wonder if a neighbour dispute where the neighbours are blocking access to the drive might impact the rentability of the property if you chose to move.

Beautifulbythebay · 20/06/2024 23:34

Our neighbour over the back knocked at 8pm one Friday night to tell us a tree surgeon was coming out 8 30 Monday morning to cut our tree as it blocked her light.. No chance to contact our ll. The tree had a protection order on it...
I videoed some butcher attacking the tree sat on our fencing /half on his ladder.... At 9 I got through to the council. All the while her ranting I was just a tenant so none of my business... Council drip came out and said never mind it would grow back.. Second rate people here are tenants apparently..

Sasqwatch · 20/06/2024 23:36

we pay 1.5 times more in rent than he does for his mortgage so he needs to get a life.

Uhm I’m not sure that is a cause for celebration or oneupmanship 🤔

FourOfDiamonds · 20/06/2024 23:36

Our whole village is like this. The house next door to us is the only rented house in the village and other villagers have said stuff to me like 'they don't count, they're just a renter', refused to add them to the village WhatsApp group or invite them to any village events. It's so bizarre and mean! We are friendly with the girl who rents and she said she'd noticed people being rude to her

stayathomer · 20/06/2024 23:41

They’re just idiots really- I used to hate hearing that, we’d be chatting to people and they’d say ‘the people in number 6 are renters, you can tell anyway by the state of the house’ and I’d say ‘oh we actually rent too’ and they’d backtrack. It’s so weird that people think that renters don’t look after a house given that most of them would have been renting before they bought!!!

Cocacolo · 20/06/2024 23:41

im gobsmacked! Why on earth would people think less of people who rent?
how can they not be grateful for what they have - have they never experienced and kind of difficulty in life? Wow

Gakpo · 20/06/2024 23:44

I guarantee that they’d be doing the same thing if you owned the house. Fundamentally, an arsehole, is an arsehole.

sparkleowl · 20/06/2024 23:44

dudsville · 20/06/2024 23:24

Home ownership isn't what makes them jerks, it's about their personality.

Exactly

Milkand2sugarsplease · 20/06/2024 23:48

I hate it when someone talks about moving house and you hear "are you buying or just renting"? What's with the "just"? Buying works for some while renting works for others and essentially, whether you're paying a mortgage company or a landlord, you're paying a monthly fee to live in a pile of bricks....

Sossijiz · 20/06/2024 23:50

Sasqwatch · 20/06/2024 23:36

we pay 1.5 times more in rent than he does for his mortgage so he needs to get a life.

Uhm I’m not sure that is a cause for celebration or oneupmanship 🤔

How do you know what he pays for his mortgage? Have you been looking through his bin?

Ponoka7 · 20/06/2024 23:59

Sossijiz · 20/06/2024 23:50

How do you know what he pays for his mortgage? Have you been looking through his bin?

You can look up an address and it will tell you what it last sold for. Mortgages are cheaper than rents, without doing that.

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 21/06/2024 00:04

It's astonishing how many people seem to think that homeowners have more rights than those who rent. Moreover, those who also believe in an additional hierarchy of how long you've lived there, meaning that those who have been there for 40 years get first dibs on the parking, those who've only been there 15 years get the leftover scraps and the renters don't deserve anything at all.

I bet the people with these attitudes are also disproportionally nasty racists; so much so that, after they have managed to buy themselves a house in a 'naice white neighbourhood - with none of those undesirable immigrant sorts' (i.e. anybody who is non-white), they need to actively search for some other ridiculous petty 'reason' to stir up animosity based on some arbitrary characteristic that they just happen to 'win', based on their own stupid rules.

Renamed · 21/06/2024 00:07

Guy across the road is a jerk like this. Once there was loud yelling coming from a house in the street, people went outside, knocked, my DP called the police. Jerk said to him “they’re tenants”. Erm well so are we.

Riversideandrelax · 21/06/2024 00:07

Ponoka7 · 20/06/2024 23:59

You can look up an address and it will tell you what it last sold for. Mortgages are cheaper than rents, without doing that.

But you still don't know what mortgage someone needed to take out?

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 21/06/2024 00:09

Are they blocking your driveway by parking on the dropped kerb?

If so, I believe that is an offence. Whether you own the home or not

We had a new neighbour move in, and she invited several guests. Quite a few cars outside her house. One of her guests pulled up and parked about a metre over our dropped kerb, which meant my DH would not gain access to our driveway when he got home.

I went out, politely explained and her guest moved.

I own my house, but I don't think that is relevant when someone is blocking you from entering or exiting your own drive.

Againname · 21/06/2024 00:15

Owning doesn't give him the right to be a twat.

We own and would never behave like your neighbour OP.

You say he has a mortgage. I'd be tempted to tell him "actually you don't own. Your lender does" except it's not worth the stress of doing that.

Sorry you have such a crap neighbour.

Listress · 21/06/2024 00:15

We rented while our new home was having extensive renovations done. Oh my goodness were my eyes well and truly opened! I’ll give you a brief rundown of the issues we had…

Complaints made to the letting agent as our bins weren’t brought in on time (I was at our property sorting my horses and managing the contractors) DH was working. Good Lord the bins weren’t brought in until after 6pm on bin days!

I was accused of “eyeing up” my neighbours husband through a fence while hanging my washing out. She warned me off her husband. I’d said hello to him twice in passing.

I put a 3 foot potted Christmas tree outside my front door, our neighbour came the door and complained the battery operated lights were shining in her window. The lights were powered by 2 x AA batteries.

We received a lawyers letter saying my car wasn’t taxed or insured. Both our cars were taxed and insured. We still laugh about that one.

We had cat shit thrown across the drive - we never owned cats at the time. I duly returned the cat shit - the neighbour wasn’t happy. What she didn’t realise was her throwing cat shit on our drive was captured on the ring door bell.

We were accused of our dogs running wild, my hearing dog never left my side. She just hated dogs. “Running Wild” was my dog being in the garden asleep.

She was batshit crazy and hated tenants.

We have a business and she badly needed help a year after we moved to our home we’d been renovating. It was 2.30 am and she was hysterical but being kind we helped her. I will never forget her face when she walked in and realised who’d been living next to her. That is the one and only time I’ve got up in the middle of the night to put make up on to look fresh 😂

Never ever let someone who owns their house let you feel like shit because your rent your home. A home is a home whether rented or owned.

The response straight away was Do you own your property? Nope. Well we do

Only a foul person would say this, it says more about her as a person than it does you @k2493.