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To opt out of this insane work practice?

378 replies

Acunningruse · 18/06/2024 10:58

I started a new role 3 months ago. Everyone else in the team has been there for years and they are a very established group (but have been very welcoming to me). I discovered the other day, that the "rule" in the team is that when it is someone's birthday, everyone buys them a card, you write it and send it TO THEIR HOME ADDRESS!

I just cannot get my head around this. There are 12 of us in the team. It is just so wasteful- 11 individual cards and stamps whereas we could just send one- or better yet- give it to them in the office!!! We see each other every week!

The waste is huge not to mention the fact that I can barely remember my own family's birthdays, let alone 11 people I've just met?

These are lovely women and the last thing I want to do is cause offence but I really do not want to participate in this. How can I opt out without causing offence?

OP posts:
Pudmyboy · 18/06/2024 15:28

Even a cheap card at 59p plus a 2nd class stamp at 85p is £7.34 per person.
59+ 85=£1.44 per person ;
x12 staff=£17.28 per year....

MayonnaiseOnMyChips · 18/06/2024 15:31

Card factory do ten cards for a pound. Stock up now,OP. NOW!

viques · 18/06/2024 15:39

Are they buying their own stamps or putting them through the office stamp process, whatever it is?

Marine30 · 18/06/2024 15:42

keylimedog · 18/06/2024 11:03

I don't think I'd want to give everyone my home address tbh 😂

This could be your get out - you could say something along lines of not comfortable giving out home address so best for you to not participate.

viques · 18/06/2024 15:44

Pudmyboy · 18/06/2024 15:28

Even a cheap card at 59p plus a 2nd class stamp at 85p is £7.34 per person.
59+ 85=£1.44 per person ;
x12 staff=£17.28 per year....

I would put everyone’s work email on my Jacquie Lawson account. If anyone queries it say you are concerned for the worlds trees so don’t send paper cards.

poolemoney · 18/06/2024 15:45

Whereinharrogate · 18/06/2024 15:17

I'd just do it. They're lovely, you like them, it's established tradition but honestly posting a card is fine! Buy 11 cards next time you're at the supermarket, set 11 reminders in your phone now. It isn't that big a deal

No, 'honestly', it's not fine. Who are you being 'honest' to?

RamonaRamirez · 18/06/2024 15:45

Is it a mostly female department?

It seems such a as ridiculous mental load to take on voluntarily!

elenathevampireslayer · 18/06/2024 15:49

Get a bunch of cards for a £1 from the Card Factory and keep them in your desk.

Tell them you much prefer giving them personally as you don't trust the post 😂

willWillSmithsmith · 18/06/2024 15:53

Other than HR and any personal friends I make at work why on earth should all and sundry have my (or your) home address? That’s absurd.

LlamaTwirl · 18/06/2024 15:55

I thinking marking the birthdays of your team members in the office is a really good way of improving cohesion in the team. I also think sending cards directly to each others houses is crazy - is it a throw back from working from home during lockdown? I think I'd try to join in if with the cards but without sending through the post..

willWillSmithsmith · 18/06/2024 15:57

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 18/06/2024 15:18

It's not just a female thing, but a British thing. DH has a colleague just over from Italy. I met her and she mentioned how odd she found it that people spend money on cards when they can just wish someone a happy birthday or send them a text. It does seem just like a way to keep the card industry going. I wonder if it's just us, or if other nationalities give cards to colleagues?

Yes but do men do it? Apart from Valentines cards I’ve never met a man that buys cards, never mind for work colleagues! I just can’t imagine a workplace full of men deciding to post each other birthday cards.

audweb · 18/06/2024 16:00

My ADHD brain would fail at this. Barely remember family birthdays and usually buy a card and then forget to send it. I would try but I would forget.

godmum56 · 18/06/2024 16:03

GrumpyPanda · 18/06/2024 15:22

Of all the hills to die on OP... seriously pick your battles. You may soon find yourself disagreeing with them on something that truly matters rather than just represents a minor inconvenience.

I'd say show them who you are (nicely) on a small hill and when it comes to a big hill, they will know you don't give way!

godmum56 · 18/06/2024 16:05

LlamaTwirl · 18/06/2024 15:55

I thinking marking the birthdays of your team members in the office is a really good way of improving cohesion in the team. I also think sending cards directly to each others houses is crazy - is it a throw back from working from home during lockdown? I think I'd try to join in if with the cards but without sending through the post..

I don't give a flying fart about team cohesion and never did!

poolemoney · 18/06/2024 16:08

LlamaTwirl · 18/06/2024 15:55

I thinking marking the birthdays of your team members in the office is a really good way of improving cohesion in the team. I also think sending cards directly to each others houses is crazy - is it a throw back from working from home during lockdown? I think I'd try to join in if with the cards but without sending through the post..

It makes litle sends to send cards to people's homes for team cohesion, or to put the stress of sending cards on people in the first place.

Birthday person bringing in cakes would be an easier way to bring everyone together in the communal area for coffee, cake and a natter.

KomodoOhno · 18/06/2024 16:10

That's so odd. Me personally I wouldn't want forced birthday cards.

houseworkneverends · 18/06/2024 16:15

Just buy a pack of generic cards and a book of stamps and keep them in your desk drawer - job done!

SocoBateVira · 18/06/2024 16:15

LlamaTwirl · 18/06/2024 15:55

I thinking marking the birthdays of your team members in the office is a really good way of improving cohesion in the team. I also think sending cards directly to each others houses is crazy - is it a throw back from working from home during lockdown? I think I'd try to join in if with the cards but without sending through the post..

It's only a really good way of improving team cohesion if people actually like it, rather than being indifferent or resentful. Both of which are realistic possibilities!

I just can't fathom how people remember, honestly. I never would. Not a cards person and it simply would not stick. At very best, I might manage the suggestion from a pp of getting a stash of generic ones, adding the birthdays to my calendar and giving them in the office. But even that would be a faff.

godmum56 · 18/06/2024 16:16

houseworkneverends · 18/06/2024 16:15

Just buy a pack of generic cards and a book of stamps and keep them in your desk drawer - job done!

but why?

willWillSmithsmith · 18/06/2024 16:17

I didn’t even send Christmas cards to work colleagues. When they handed me one I’d say (nicely) thank you but I don’t do cards myself. No one was offended, in fact I’d still get cards the next Christmas!

BusyMummy001 · 18/06/2024 16:20

You’re joining a team of 10(?) other people who have an established ritual for birthdays and, as the new person, you want to crap all over it and sour it for them?

Great way to endear yourself, I’d say.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 18/06/2024 16:21

UserNumber56 · 18/06/2024 11:15

Tell them you're a Jehova's Witness and are forbidden to celebrate birthdays!

Yes, or maybe a Quaker. Careful though as you make get excluded from the Christmas Party. Wine

So maybe an environmentalist (trying to minimise waste, and fuel for Postman Pat etc.)

SocoBateVira · 18/06/2024 16:22

NigelHarmansNewWife · 18/06/2024 14:29

I might make the others think. She participates without rocking the boat. The OP has already said she's prepared to give cards, but not post them to home addresses. Giving and receiving cards is actually quite a nice way of marking an occasion.

Edited

There's no 'actually'. Your view about cards being quite nice doesn't override those of us who think they're a pointless wifework nuisance. Or vice versa.

That said, I agree with you if OP doesn't want to rock the boat then handing over in the office fits better with what she's going for. Though I expect I'd end up forgetting and causing great offence at some point, even with calendar reminders and a stash in the desk. It's quite difficult to retain that sort of information when you think the whole thing has no value.

jannier · 18/06/2024 16:22

Acunningruse · 18/06/2024 11:07

Yes, they are all really sweet, and I do get people saying its only a few pence for a card, which is true, its more the waste particularly in posting it. If I did join in I wouldnt post it I would leave in their tray, that could be a compromise. I think its more the mental load of having to remember 11 extra birthdays, get cards etc. I know its a cliche but I would bet my house that nowhere is there a group of men at work sat around saying "right have you sent John the card for his birthday yet".

You could keep some in your desk and pop it in their in tray

poolemoney · 18/06/2024 16:23

It's easier to opt out from the beginning as a newcomer. Opting out after a year is worse.