to think the ageism on here has been disgusting recently

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Distaste for the idea of older mothers. Pesky pensioners daring to shop at weekends when they've 'got all week' to do it. Retirement-age people being lambasted for not resigning to free up jobs for younger people. A lack of comprehension as to why older people are even in the workplace at all. Calls for over-80s to be stripped of their driving licences. A solemn assertion from one pp earlier in the year that '60 isn't young. It's old.' like middle age doesn't even exist. And that’s just off the top of my head.

Some people are going to get a shock when they get older themselves, according to some of the comments I’ve seen on this forum recently.

At the same time people who do retire before state pension age being lambasted for living it up at public expense.

Not quite sure why those doing the 'lambasting' think it is at public expense? That makes no sense at all.

And I don't think it's reasonable for 70yr olds who don't need the income to be working in jobs when younger people can't find a job.

@FTPM1980 somehow I didn't spot this when you posted it, but how on earth do you know they don't need the income?

Who has abused you? Not me.Lack of logic.

They would be quite so heaving if they weren't being treated as a whole family outing.

Never understood why one parent doesn't stay at home with the children

Never understood why one parent doesn't stay at home with the children

Nice bit of ageism from you there.

How about The small kids in schools, people with disabilities, older people unable to see their families, older people being made redundant and having to deal with ageist people like u.we all suffered during covid nit just younger people.some of my dreams were dashed for good.

Ok. The relevance to your point was that the fact people moaned about lockdown and resented it has no bearing on "ageism". People complied. They gave up their freedom and stayed at home, often completely alone for the older people you are suggesting they have no respect for. YOUR point makes no sense as far as I can see.
Of course people resented it. Doesn't mean they didn't go along with it though
If there was a pandemic that was really only potentially deadly to the under 40s do you think all the elderly would give up their lives to protect them? Hopefully we'll never have to find out but maybe they would and maybe they wouldn't. I'm pretty sure they'd have a good old moan about it though (and fair enough as long as they complied)

I read and hear a lot of criticism against Boomers and I am not denying that the housing situation for the young is seriously bad atm.

What I don’t recognise though is how easy we had it. I grew up in the north in the 70s and it’s hard to describe how bleak it was pre-internet and how few material comforts people had compared with today. How few choices.

I remember ice on the inside of the bathroom window as we didn’t have central heating. I also remember having one pair of school shoes and one pair of gym plimsolls and that was it. My mother let down the hems of all of our sleeves and skirts. No one in my class at secondary school had travelled abroad.

If you want to get a taste of what it was like, have a look at the series about the Yorkshire Ripper and you can see. And get a sense of the horrendous misogyny prevalent at the time.

And many of my contemporaries are still working out of necessity as their pension age has been pushed back.

Is this message for me? Because I argued that people moaning against lockdown doesn't make them ageist? So you're calling me ageist? 😂

Agree!

I don't....that's for them to decide.
Perfectly fine with 70 Yr olds working if they need the income....although ideally with pensions and UC they wouldn't. But you read about 70, 80yrvolds still working saying "I don't need the money I just like working" but that's a paid job that isn't going to a young person looking for a foot in the door.

Yes, people did comply (I never said they didn't), but a hell of a lot of them complained about having to

So they wernt allowed to moan and it wasnt good enough to just comply. They had to give an Oscar performance of being happy and paste a smile on their face. I did say at the time that whatever we did it would never be enough. I was proved right! Here is what i REALLY objected to. Disabled and ill people being used as a tool to emotionally blackmail others into following lockdowns and restrictions when the Gov. and most people couldnt give a fuck about them under normal circumstances. I dont like users! I said it would be back to the default setting soon enough................and here we are Both Tory and Labour talking about people on benefits in a derogatory way and touting the idea of giving PIP claimants vouchers. Not vulnerable now eh!

So people have to give up what they enjoy in life? Work can be a life line for older people too. They may have long standing relationships and experience they wish to keep building on. Hopes, wishes and dreams. It doesn't stop just because you age out.
My DD is 78. Lives alone. He works still in a skilled sector. He retired. They pulled him back in a year later when it fucked up.

He uses the cash to travel. Live his life. Visit family abroad. Help out my siblings. It keeps him skilled in technology which is a must in todays world. My DM hasn't a clue and has been out of work for 30 years due to ill health. The contrast between them is staggering.

Why should he give that up for someone else? Other people who can make choices.

Not quite sure how that is ageist?

Yes
Doing exactly what you want at the expense of others is not reasonable.
That's my opinion and I happy with it.
You are welcome to yours.

Doing exactly what you want at the expense of others is not reasonable

Presumably you think that younger people going after jobs at the expense of older people who also want them isn't reasonable either?

So old people shouldn't work then? That is your opinion? Regardless of the impact on their physical and mental health? Everyone has the right to work should they choose to do so.

Your opinion is ageist and should not be acceptable in a civilised society.

Um because people are arguing it's ageist to suggest OAPs shouldn't do their shopping or whatever at the weekend / lunchtime during the week (fair enough, it is I guess) but then suggesting that kids shouldn't be allowed in shops at those times.
It's funny how pretty much nobody who loves to call out "ageism" ever seems to notice it when it's against kids!

There are plenty of things you can do for your physical and mental health that don't involve paid employment.
In fairness the same would apply to a 30yr old that didn't need the money....but they wouldn't qualify for old age pension (or UC unless they were looking for work)
So actually the benefits system is ageist.

I think someone who doesn't "need" an income, working at the expense of someone who not only needs an income but also work experience is selfish yes.

then suggesting that kids shouldn't be allowed in shops at those times.

I haven't seen any comments that said that. It's common sense that supermarkets are going to be much busier at the weekend if whole families go. I mainly did our big supermarket shop without the kids, although I appreciate not everyone has that.luxury. Now I don't work, I generally don't do my main shop at the weekend because I can do it when it's quieter in the week. Both these things are common sense, not ageism.

So they wernt allowed to moan and it wasnt good enough to just comply. They had to give an Oscar performance of being happy and paste a smile on their face.

Wow, talk about putting words in someone's mouth. I said precisely none of that.

Well if the plans to extend retirement age to above 70 come to pass, then those young people are just going have to deal with it unfortunately.