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to think the ageism on here has been disgusting recently

448 replies

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 16/06/2024 11:57

Distaste for the idea of older mothers. Pesky pensioners daring to shop at weekends when they've 'got all week' to do it. Retirement-age people being lambasted for not resigning to free up jobs for younger people. A lack of comprehension as to why older people are even in the workplace at all. Calls for over-80s to be stripped of their driving licences. A solemn assertion from one pp earlier in the year that '60 isn't young. It's old.' like middle age doesn't even exist. And that’s just off the top of my head.

Some people are going to get a shock when they get older themselves, according to some of the comments I’ve seen on this forum recently.

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EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 16/06/2024 12:28

Catza · 16/06/2024 12:08

Yesterday I saw an argument elsewhere that if young people's wages were brought in line with everyone else's, businesses would stop employing young people in favour of older employees. I couldn't stop laughing at that. Clearly, the person saying it hasn't been subject to ageism.

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My first encounter with ageism was aged 18 when my Saturday job did their damnedest to manage me out because they had to pay me more once I hit 18. 😂

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AGodawfulsmallaffair · 16/06/2024 12:30

paasll · 16/06/2024 12:02

Most of it is ageism, but factually speaking, if an 80+yo is involved in a car accident, the most likely scenario is that it was their fault.

Maybe, but the far majority of accidents are still caused by young men.

MilliMollieMandi · 16/06/2024 12:31

@ghostyslovesheets - have a look at Triumph 'Doreen' and see if you would like it - sure lots of fans of this bra will come rushing along now...
I think that the introduction of GransNet doesn't help - it suggests that once you are 50plus that you leave MN.

BellyPork · 16/06/2024 12:33

Yes. I used the report feature on a recent ageist OP, reason: hate speech. Maybe I was the only one to report because the thread's still up.

Gabbsters · 16/06/2024 12:34

Yes, MN on the whole is shockingly ageist, which surprises me because most users aren't especially young. I think it's the narcissism of small differences, frankly- acting as if 50 is over the hill but 35 is the first flush of youth.

Samcro · 16/06/2024 12:35

LeviOsaNotLeviosaa · 16/06/2024 12:11

Oh well.

After years of abuse from boomers I think most of us younger people have run out of fucks to give.

and there isis. yes cos all "boomers" are the same.

WannaBeGardener · 16/06/2024 12:39

Gabbsters · 16/06/2024 12:34

Yes, MN on the whole is shockingly ageist, which surprises me because most users aren't especially young. I think it's the narcissism of small differences, frankly- acting as if 50 is over the hill but 35 is the first flush of youth.

When I was 20, 50 seemed quite old. Now that I'm 50, 60 doesn't seem old. It's all relative.

yumyumyumy · 16/06/2024 12:40

YANBU. I can't wait until these idiots get to that age.

Emotionalsupporthamster · 16/06/2024 12:41

I’m in my 30s and I completely agree OP, some of it is awful on here

Gettingbysomehow · 16/06/2024 12:44

Im 62 and have been a medical professional for 43 years, single woman, well off. Since hitting 60 Im finding more and more people are tresting me like a halfwit and speaking loudly to me as if Im deaf. Im not deaf.
I esoecially love being called hun, my darling and love everywhere.

uhOhOP · 16/06/2024 12:44

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 16/06/2024 11:57

Distaste for the idea of older mothers. Pesky pensioners daring to shop at weekends when they've 'got all week' to do it. Retirement-age people being lambasted for not resigning to free up jobs for younger people. A lack of comprehension as to why older people are even in the workplace at all. Calls for over-80s to be stripped of their driving licences. A solemn assertion from one pp earlier in the year that '60 isn't young. It's old.' like middle age doesn't even exist. And that’s just off the top of my head.

Some people are going to get a shock when they get older themselves, according to some of the comments I’ve seen on this forum recently.

On the first one, there are obviously concerns when a woman has a child at around the age of 40, as some posters mentioned on that thread. And on the second one, the OP simply communicated the thoughts of her colleagues, if I remember correctly. OP herself did not say that's what she thinks.

And be prepared for people to tell you that "60 is not middle age, unless you're going to live to 120". I agree that 60 is not old, for what it's worth, and that it can be thought of as middle age.

Wondering17 · 16/06/2024 12:45

I am 55 and someone at work (a little older than me) asked me if I thought I should leave my job to make way for younger people - because she feels she should apparently Confused.

Erm no - apart from anything else I need my job to survive on a day to day basis.

VJBR · 16/06/2024 12:48

The one that me laugh was the 'well-heeled' elderly couple who dared to turn up in a taxi to an art museum. Outrage from the OP that they aren't paying more taxes.

delusionalonathursday · 16/06/2024 12:48

Over 80s shouldn't be on the road no - or they should be made to re air their tests annually

Older mothers.....well there is what the NHS considers old which is probably anyone. Over age 35 and then there is women in the mid to late 40s having children which is incredibly selfish

You're other points I do agree with

Bluevelvetsofa · 16/06/2024 12:49

It’s as though, once you become a certain, unspecified age, you lose all rights to have an opinion, go shopping, drive, in fact so many everyday things.

I accept that there are people who shouldn’t drive, but then there are people who shouldn’t drive at any age and younger drivers take more risks because they feel they’re immortal.

The regular negative threads and comments are distasteful.

Oriunda · 16/06/2024 12:50

As an older mother (not by choice; multiple mc before I finally had my child) I find the disingenuous ‘feel bad for being 60 when my DD will be 19’ type posts very upsetting.

RedYellowPinkGreenPurpleOrangeBlue · 16/06/2024 12:50

I have to say I do agree with some of the comments though. (And I'm nearly 60, so no spring chicken myself.) Not all of them, but some. And I do see some rude comments aimed at younger people too. I see some pretty snide and offensive comments aimed at young mums for instance.

Daleksatemyshed · 16/06/2024 12:51

A lot if it is bitterness sadly. They think everyone over 60 bought a house on the cheap, has loads of money, gets big pensions that their generation is paying for whilst they struggle for money. In reality a lot of us are not middle class big earners, I only own a house through inheritence in my late 50s and have worked full time for over 40 years. I find a sense of humour and some biting sarcasm very useful when needed

MrsAvocet · 16/06/2024 12:51

Something I've noticed is that quite a lot of posters seem to struggle to be able to calculate when older people were born and what their life experiences would actually have been. Not just here, but you see comments about the "older generation" fighting for our feedom in WW2. Well my Dad was one of the youngest cohort to see frontline service in the war, and were he still alive he would be 98! There are hardly any veterans left, and you'd need to be in your mid to late 80s to even have any childhood memories of the war. Today's pensioners were mainly teenagers in the 60s or later and the soundtrack of their youth was more likely to have been the Rolling Stones or T Rex than Glen Miller. But people don't seem to be able to do the arithmetic.
Likewise I read a thread recently where the OP's mother was unsupportive of her breastfeeding and there were numerous posts saying things like "it's generational" and "things were different in those days". Ridiculous. The OP's mother is probably about my age and had her own children in the 1990s or even the early 2000s but people were describing beliefs and behaviours more in keeping with the kind of thing that might have been the norm a generation or two before that!
It's almost like people think that the minute you're no longer actually young you drop through some kind of time slip to the early 20th century and start behaving as such!

ASighMadeOfStone · 16/06/2024 12:53

LeviOsaNotLeviosaa · 16/06/2024 12:11

Oh well.

After years of abuse from boomers I think most of us younger people have run out of fucks to give.

What abuse have you received from the entire generation of people born between 1945 and 1965? (The baby boomers- I'm sure you know that "boomer" itself has become an ageist slur)

Because that would be some level of abuse, wouldn't it?

Marshfritillary · 16/06/2024 12:54

There's plenty of threads bashing baby boomers saying they stole all the houses, despite 1970s 12%+ interest rates. They all had free uni education despite the fact that only around 10% went to uni - parents expected people to leave school and work. Pensioners are all rich despite the fact that the average income for single, female pensioners is £13,000 a year.
Mumsnet is definitely ageist.

Oriunda · 16/06/2024 12:55

Daleksatemyshed · 16/06/2024 12:51

A lot if it is bitterness sadly. They think everyone over 60 bought a house on the cheap, has loads of money, gets big pensions that their generation is paying for whilst they struggle for money. In reality a lot of us are not middle class big earners, I only own a house through inheritence in my late 50s and have worked full time for over 40 years. I find a sense of humour and some biting sarcasm very useful when needed

My first flat was bought with the help of a 100% mortgage in the bad old days of the 80s and sky rocketing mortgages after Black Wednesday. I only got by via being a credit card tart. Took me years to become solvent.

ASighMadeOfStone · 16/06/2024 12:57

BellyPork · 16/06/2024 12:33

Yes. I used the report feature on a recent ageist OP, reason: hate speech. Maybe I was the only one to report because the thread's still up.

No, you weren't.
I report all of them, and individual posts within.
Ageism is truly the last bastion of hate speech allowed on MN.
Some of the more longstanding moderators used to delete gratuitous ageism, but I notice most of them send you a "we're taking a look" platitude and then leave the insults and hate speech there.

ilovesooty · 16/06/2024 12:58

LeviOsaNotLeviosaa · 16/06/2024 12:11

Oh well.

After years of abuse from boomers I think most of us younger people have run out of fucks to give.

What a sweeping generalisation.

ASighMadeOfStone · 16/06/2024 13:00

LeviOsaNotLeviosaa · 16/06/2024 12:11

Oh well.

After years of abuse from boomers I think most of us younger people have run out of fucks to give.

As the saying goes, "replace the word "boomer" with the word "black" "Jewish/Muslim, or "disabled" and then ask yourself, do I sound like a fucking fascist".