to think the ageism on here has been disgusting recently

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Distaste for the idea of older mothers. Pesky pensioners daring to shop at weekends when they've 'got all week' to do it. Retirement-age people being lambasted for not resigning to free up jobs for younger people. A lack of comprehension as to why older people are even in the workplace at all. Calls for over-80s to be stripped of their driving licences. A solemn assertion from one pp earlier in the year that '60 isn't young. It's old.' like middle age doesn't even exist. And that’s just off the top of my head.

Some people are going to get a shock when they get older themselves, according to some of the comments I’ve seen on this forum recently.

Yip i agree it's all a bit too casual for my liking

Most of it is ageism, but factually speaking, if an 80+yo is involved in a car accident, the most likely scenario is that it was their fault.

Some people are going to get a shock when they get older themselves

This is what always gets me when I come across somebody that’s blatantly ageist. Do they not think getting older is going to happen to them? It’s honestly like they think the day will never come 😄

YANBU

Ageism and sexism is rife and always has been.

I do agree the ageism seems to be getting worse though.

I think historically, 60 was old.

Until 2010 women could retire at 60!

I think individual health / fitness are so important to whether or not you are ‘old’ by 60.

Of those I know aged 70 - some are climbing moutians and able to cycle 50 miles in a day, travelling the world, perfectly able to do anything really. I also know some who are very immobile, don’t go anywhere, have a very limited life day-to-day.

It definitely shows a lack of intelligence.

Yesterday I saw an argument elsewhere that if young people's wages were brought in line with everyone else's, businesses would stop employing young people in favour of older employees. I couldn't stop laughing at that. Clearly, the person saying it hasn't been subject to ageism.

Statistically, yes I'll concede that. But on a person-by-person basis, I've known over-80s who were better and safer drivers than younger people. I don't think it's unreasonable that the test should need to be re-sat at that age (but then, I think there should be a requirement for everyone to re-sit the test every so often, because many people (of all ages) become careless/complacent in their driving) but someone was baying on here the other day about 'what were they even doing on the road' which just felt like more knee-jerk ageism to me.

But what does any of that have to do with ageism?

I voted yabu because in general the people on mn sound off about every walk of life!! And they’re all angrier lately- so many angry people on here!!

Factually speaking, under 25s are the cause of more road traffic accidents.

Oh well.

After years of abuse from boomers I think most of us younger people have run out of fucks to give.

Retirement-age people being lambasted for not resigning to free up jobs for younger people. A lack of comprehension as to why older people are even in the workplace at all.

At the same time people who do retire before state pension age being lambasted for living it up at public expense.

Interesting.

Would you have voted YABU if the OP had said racism or ableism was disgusting on here, on the basis that people sound off about all walks of life?

Or is it just ageism that's ok when someone's angry?

From the OP:

“A solemn assertion from one pp earlier in the year that '60 isn't young. It's old.' like middle age doesn't even exist.”

What abuse?

I think a lot of people think they will have somehow morphed into 'an old person' complete with wrinkles, a bus pass and a Zimmer frame (not meaning to be ageist myself there, btw, just naming some of the clichés people have about later life), and developed an 'old person' mindset and lifestyle, and therefore they categorise 'old people' into a separate box. What they don't realise is that many people don't change very much/at all on the inside, and that once they become 'old' themselves they are still likely to feel like the same person they have always been.

Can you give us any examples? (Gen X myself, not a boomer, but curious.)

LizFromMotherland
People shouldn’t be so angry on here and any topic you throw up they’ll rant away (sometimes with lovely colourful words😅) on everyone

Yes absolutely - I am 63. fit, healthy and still work. I had my children at 40 and 42 (that's criticised on here), I own a house (I have paud into a pension that's resented on here). I posted on Style and Beauty a few weeks ago asking for bra advice - I mentioned my age because that does impact on the fit but was then immediately offered suggestions of 'old lady bras' It's going to be a shock to some if they are fortunate enough to grow older.

I think it mainly comes from...

Brexit voters being typically older
Tory voters being typically older
Covid restrictions mainly to protect the elderly

All of these things have been harmful to young people who (mostly although not all) stand against them.

The effects of the three things above have had a real impact on young people and will do for years to come.

It's so grating isn't it - and so bloody casual - othering anyone over 50!

It's like we are a different breed - like you turn 50/60 and become someone entirely different from you at 39 - shockingly you don't!

I'm 54 - my youngest will be 19 when I am 57! so obviously I will embarrass her with my old hag ancient face and positively Victorian behaviour and attitudes - I'll probably be dead by the time she's 30 ffs

Honestly I am still working, have a full social life, decent music taste, and my brain works - but obviously I have no actual value because I am so very very old

@MilliMollieMandi did they also suggest some kind of muumuu and full face covering to hide you old lady self behind? Honestly WTF is an 'old lady bra' - did they mean a Liberty Bodice?

Well, yes but the irony is that young people pride themselves on being politically just (I don't want to use the w-word due to it being weponised) yet neglect to notice their less than just attitudes towards other generations.

That’s stereotyping people though by saying just because they happen to have a certain characteristic ( in this case age) that they can’t help - they are likely to be guilty of certain things. Just because statistically speaking they are more likely to do that thing generally speaking than people with different characteristics.

It’s generalising and making assumptions which is similar to what we see with racism etc but people know that’s wrong now.