That restaurants should know parmesan isn't vegetarian?

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My Mum has booked this restaurant and asked if I want to come along.

Surely the chef should know this?

https://www.315barandrestaurant.co.uk/

Wibu to get in touch with them and ask if it is actually a parmesan substitute (in which case it should be labelled correctly!) Or if they can develop a different dish that actually IS vegetarian? There are two dishes with parmesan on the vegetarian menu.

OP do you wear leather shoes, trainers or jackets? Leather handbag or purse? Leather seats in your car?

OP it drives me bonkers. I have seen 'vegetarian' dishes with Parmesan so many times in pubs and restaurants. No Parmesan is not vegetarian. You would think it would be something a chef would know.

I don't buy or wear leather products, but whether the OP does or doesn't is neither here nor there and nothing to do with their AIBU

Me too, for 35 years. Check everything

Haribo do have a vegetarian range and two vegan ones. I think 'proper' Turkish delight is made without gelatine.

And properly made mousse au chocolat doesn't contain gelatin either.

Nope. Vegetarian is basically vegan + things that animals can 'give' without killing so milk eggs and honey. Although I knew a vegan who ate honey.

Things like beer and wine that are clarified using isinglass are not vegetarian.

So something that appears vegi and could be made that way are not, eg mushrooms cooked with wine.

Bread can also be a problem. Custard is also a problem but if you cater for vegans you should probably have a tin of Bird's in the cupboard.

Chefs / restaurants absolutely should be labeling their menu correctly or saying vegetarian / vegan options are available. Not just for vegetarians / vegans but because a lot of people eat vegi when they are away from home because at home they eat halal or kosher or they are sikh and cannot eat halal meat.

In huddersfield they are missing a trick.

It just doesn't make much sense to me to avoid rennet but eat dairy cheese that requires calves to be born. I understand veganism. I was wondering what a non animal rights based reason could be that's all.

Nope. Vegetarian is basically vegan + things that animals can 'give' without killing so milk eggs and honey. Although I knew a vegan who ate honey.

Does vegetarian cheese come from cows inseminated with sex selected sperm to avoid killing male calves?

I know where I work, we have a Parmesan which is vegetarian. I know this 💯 as I questioned it and chef showed me the packaging. I wonder if it's something like this they use.

That is probably Italian hard cheese. Parmesan is not vegetarian

Yeah I no this but it actually states Parmesan on the packaging. It doesn't state hard cheese. But it clearly also states it's vegetarian.

I know vegetarians who eat cheese that contains rennet. Strict vegetarians are probably better off with vegan food or avoiding cheese when eating out.

Well, it could be an honest mistake, too…
I’ve managed to get to somewhere North of age 60, catered happily (I enjoy a challenge) for both Vegan and Vegetarian friends and family members over many years, and have never been advised by the Vegetarians, or, indeed, by any Vegetarian cookbook (before Internet) that they can’t eat certain cheeses. Maybe they also didn’t know?

I don’t like the taste or texture of meat.

Or bananas. But there isn’t a name for that.

Totally off the point, but there is an argument we should eat more veal.

I haven't noticed any taste or texture of meat in cheeses containing rennet.

My DS also doesn't like bananas, but does in a smoothie, I get the texture thing.

I've eaten rose veal from a calf at foot dairy. Then had vegetarians, who eat large amounts of dairy cheese judge me for it.

I became a veggie in the early 80s. I remember on a school residential trip the vegetarians, instead of sausages or whatever the meat was were given one day a lump of cheddar and the next a pile of cold kidney beans from a tin including the vile juice.
Almost all veggie ready meals had those boiled to death diced carrots in them.

It really doesn’t. It’s very salty and made from sheep’s milk. Do you mean Grana Padana? That tastes like Parmesan

I’m vegetarian, numerous restaurants don’t know this even a well known chain of Italian restaurants!

I'm not vegetarian or vegan, but I agree it makes no sense. We can see the consequences of mass vegetarianism in the 5 million stray cattle in India. Male calves taken from mothers and abandoned.

It's local to me. It's no great shakes. You're much better off going to the Italian up the road.

If you do go though, id make up a sort of tapas of olives/hummus/roasted veg side dishes.

I think many (good) restaurants offer vegan rather than vegetarian for this reason.
Too easy to get it wrong.

Real Parmesan isn't vegetarian but there's similar hard cheese that is, it's cheaper so perhaps they use that?

But do remember that many vegetarians aren't that fussy, neither of my DDs check the cheese is veggie as they accept it's just a by product and they are eating dairy anyway. They choose not to knowingly eat meat or fish though.

As for restaurants, there's no legal requirement to serve vegetarian or vegan food, so if a restaurant doesn't bother having vegetarian dishes, go elsewhere