That restaurants should know parmesan isn't vegetarian?

[SpikyCoconut]

My Mum has booked this restaurant and asked if I want to come along.

Surely the chef should know this?

https://www.315barandrestaurant.co.uk/

Wibu to get in touch with them and ask if it is actually a parmesan substitute (in which case it should be labelled correctly!) Or if they can develop a different dish that actually IS vegetarian? There are two dishes with parmesan on the vegetarian menu.

I've seen restaurants having nduja pasta as a vegetarian option, it's salami for goodness sake. Even more bizarre. I think you have to be quite suspicious of a lot of stuff in restaurants really being vegetarian.

Yes this is what I meant.

If they've given up eating meat, they're helping.

The actual meat helps, yes.

Though they could eat rose veal or beef from the dairy industry and no animals would die that wouldn't have anyway.

Switching red meat for chicken will cause more deaths and suffering. Even the highest welfare chicken is still a life for one roast dinner due to the size of the animal. I've read of vegetarians only feeding their children chicken. That's a choice that does not help.

I agree.
Whenever we rent a villa or cottage for our holiday I take my own frying pan for example. I do wonder if restaurants use separate pans to ensure no contamination.

Yes much better.
No idea why but I can’t link hence I always have to use screen shots. There was a thread on MN about a year ago on this subject as well

I quite agree.
I saw an area in a supermarket labelled as ‘meat free Monday’ which is fantastic. Meat eaters not eating meat one day a week is such a huge leap forward from where we were in the last century.

I think it was Tescos ‘every little helps’ !

I am with @CatModel -that is simply not true. I lived behind a dairy farm as a child and used to hear them :( I didn't know what the noise was at the time so didn't think much of it and I am so glad we moved away from tat house before I realised. Cows are very gentle, loving animals. And yes, I don't want to get into the morality debate here either but we all know how mammals have sentiment toward their babies and of course a farmer will push their own agenda, the same as anyone else will about anything that's important to them.

What @Maddie212 says is just much more likely to be the truth-why wouldn't a cow want to protect her baby, the same as any animal wants to? Why would she be perfectly fine with seeing that baby ripped away? Of course I accept that some breeds may have a stronger maternal instinct. Same as most species I would've thought. And as others have said it is a generationally affected thing, why wouldn't it be? Trauma and traits are passed down through generations.

I remember those days @ErinBell01 ! Having to read the label on most cheeses-and when a lot of them began to sport the 'V' label

@poshsnobtwit that's shocking! What about allertgies?

@IAmNotASheep that's quite shocking too-I wonder if I (and many others) just hold higher standards than many people? I mean, if I were a chef I'd want to know the ins and outs of every ingredient-I do that now even when just cooking with new things.

I am glad you made a complaint. I think It's a crap menu too however I appreciate that that may be personal taste. Very cheese-heavy (which may suit some, and some of the flavour combinations in fairness sound nice) and who wants a potato sandwich?

it could be very good with just a few tweaks and a little more imagination-and I do like that they have vegan desserts, that's quite unusual IME except in very upmarket places and even then they usually only have one.

@Kandalama my thoughts exactly!

I will answer although it has nothing to do with my query-I could be a die-hard meat lover, I'd still want restaurants to label their offerings correctly the same as I'd want a shop to know something about what it was selling.

The only perils of using/wearing second-hand leather that'd otherwise be chucked out is, I feel, that someone may see me wearing it and judge that I think buying leather is okay.

@laylababe5 I am not sure what is meant by that, ALL vegetarians eat eggs/dairy by the definition of vegetarian-it doesn't mean that you don't eat those things?

@KirstenBlest I don't like soup either especially in a restaurant for some reason. I used to love it, and I wish i still did as It's great for when I am trying to diet

I agree with you about the choices people make and how we have animals here for our own gains @IAmNotASheep . So many people seem to think that its better for cows etc to be alive then slaughtered for meat/dairy than it is for us to just simply not breed them at all. I just find it very odd.