nursery opening hours

[scottishgal09]

I need to go back to work so will soon be putting my 9 month old in nursery, only thing is that the earliest I can find any nursery open is 7 am to 7 pm. The 7 pm closing time is fine but I really find I need a opening time of 6 pm. I also work Saturday mornings so need something that is open 6 days. Start time should be at least 6:00 pm but I struggle to find this. Do these type of nursery’s exist? What are the opening and closing hours for your nursery’s? Why don’t nursery’s take into account that some parents need to work 6 days 🤨?

Starting to think this too. Op you haven't answered the question about what you plan to do when your child starts school? Breakfast club will start 7.30 at the earliest, mine is 8 am

You are not proposing full time childcare. You want something additional, and there is a reason there is no demand for it.

Your job is not a well paid job if your husband is having to work two jobs and few parents would call any job with this lack of flex a “good job”. I can’t see what you’re clinging on to and if it’s something like a company car you need to look at your priorities.

Why would your child be bored at home? Do you not interact with them take them out? If you earn that well you’d be able to afford a nanny.

@scottishgal09 you are not listening.

Assuming from your username you are in Scotland, so am I, in all my years of parenting here I have never met one single person who has had their baby in a nursery from 6am. Even 7am. Or on a Saturday. This sort of childcare DOES NOT EXIST. People who work shifts either work around each other (I know two police officers who used to hand kids over in the car park at shift change) or one goes part time or changes their hours.

So, what are you going to do? Because banging on about how it should exist, or how it's not fair, or how "bored" your child would be at home/with a childminder is not solving your problem, is it?

100%. I am a professional earning well enough to pay a nanny if I wanted. That’s not bragging… just facts for context. It’s not about that it’s about what the child needs which is a primary care giver. Which is why we juggle jobs so that our children see both parents for good periods of time every day. We are blessed financially. Growing up my parents had little and they sacrificed financially, dad worked 3 jobs so that mum was home with us. This produced well balanced kids. The op and husband have to find some measure of compromise.

We can afford nursery definately. Also because it is best for our child

You seem pretty sure that nursery is even better for your child than any other option, such as being with a childminder or one of its parents? Are you working all these jobs and hours between you with the sole aim of being able to make sure they are in nursery for as many hours as possible because it’s the best place for them to be?

Even if the nursery workers are a steady stream of school leavers? Even if your child is the only one there from 6am?

Right, so which job is the one where you both need to have dropped your baby off by 6am? Why is it not possible for one of you to start work a couple of hours later so you can drop off at 7:30am?

OK slightly different question. You both have 2 jobs.
What do you both actually do?

Surely one can work until part way through Saturday and then the other do the evening shift? I work in hospitality and many do that.

I don't see the issue of part time work and UC top ups. Better for your child to be honest.

I don’t understand how restaurant manager jobs can be so restrictive? Have either of you actually spoken to employer about potential hour changes or decrease in hours?

Why would a child be bored at home? They would presumably still go to nursery, just more normal hours. At after or at weekend you entertain them

Not necessarily. There are many, many excellent nurseries who have well qualified, fantastic staff. However, there are also nurseries with a nursery manager who sits in their office all day, employs lots of trainee teenage staff with the lowest level of qualification they can get away with whilst also allowing them to count in ratios and relies an awful lot on bank and supply staff.

I've worked as bank staff in day nurseries which were drastically under ratio, had a 3 hour nappy policy where nappies were changed every 3 hours and not in-between regardless of soiling, employing teens who were barely out of school who were given patchy training and very little supervision and whose experience of children was babysitting younger siblings (said staff member had no idea how to change a nappy, make up formula bottles correctly or burp a baby) never mind how to provide a safe and stimulating environment for them.

I've also worked as bank and full time staff in some excellent nurseries, with well qualified, committed and experienced staff.

Chosing a suitable childcare provider is one of the most important jobs you do for your child. You can only really do this by visiting and getting a feel for them.

Not in a good nursery, maybe in bad ones. It’s not stressful, stop lying. Children enjoy being in a nursery, there’s lots to do and lots of other children to play with. There are lots of things for them to do like water play outside or puzzles and games, more then anything at home or at a childminder. It’s more stressful being at home doing nothing lol.

They won't do nothing. You will take them to baby and toddler groups, soft play, park etc.

The very best thing you can give your child is time and love. Between you, there needs to be a reduction in working hours. You could both do 5 days a week, with each of you doing 1 weekend day. It won't give you much in the way of family time but it means you would have childcare 4 out of 7 days which would be much better for your child

Ok now we can get somewhere. If money is no object them I can categorically tell you that a nanny would be best (after you), then childminder then nursery last. Your child will not be bored at home! They are a child. Children NEED routine, calm and peace. They NEED consistent care from a person they can form an attachment to that will not be broken for years. Or they will grow up with attachment issues.

At our old house there was a nursery in a gym that you could book by the hour. They were open 7-7 and definitely open on a Saturday possibly open on a Sunday too

You will probably need more than one childcare provider.

My mum was a nurse and didn't 7am-9pm shifts and we were looked after by my grandparents. We were packaged up and dropped off at half 6 and then my grandparents would take us home and do bed time. My dad worked out oversees. We were able to stay in our pjs and snooze on the sofa at my grandparents as we slowly woke up. It's hard on the kids. You might get away with it whilst they are young and napping. My daughter is in nursery 7.30 into 6. We get home about 6.15 and have 45.minutes to feed everyone give her three lots of medication and get her ready to go up to bed at 7. When she was still napping she had an 7.30-8.bedtime and that just gave us the flex that meant evenings were quite so rushed and hectic

here are lots of things for them to do like water play outside or puzzles and games, more then anything at home or at a childminder. It’s more stressful being at home doing nothing lol

Interested to find out how much playing with puzzles and games or water play a 9 month old is going to be doing.

Interested in where the idea that a childminder plonks them in a play pen all day or in front of the telly with nothing to do.

Interested why being at home is "boring".

Feeling very sorry for this tiny human who is playing second fiddle to mum and dad's oh so important jobs as restaurant managers. Poor kid.

This woman has not listened to parents and professionals. Not to one word that’s been spoken here. “it’s stressful for a baby to be in a loving home”!? This is either a wind up or the op had an awful upbringing themselves and has literally no clue.
I give up and will pray for this poor baby.

Again why are you doing nothing with your child? This must be a wind up, nobody is this daft in real life.

I don't understand this either , id think it would quite flexible shift wise since I assume it's open at night as well? Do you both work in the same one?

Exactly. This is literal abuse. This child can’t talk yet and they are being given up on. Well meaning experts have explained the facts but ‘mum’ does not care. Nursery is best for the parents so her mind is set.

why bother asking mumsnet in the first place if you had your mind made up?

I’ve taught so many children who have been raised this way and it’s heartbreaking but as parents they are sacrificing this precious child on the altar of their own comfort and pride.

Agree with this.

Lots of people use nurseries - I did - but not for this amount of time. Why would I your child be bored at home?!

So you’re basically admitting to providing a crap environment at home for your own child? You think your child is better off with others than with you? This is an odd thread.

It’s normal to use childcare but it’s not normal to refuse to make any changes to your professional life when you have them.

Why have a child if you want others to look after them for the maximum time possible? Or if you’re totally unable or unwilling to compromise on your work for the short years until they start school? Or if you think they’re better off in paid care than with their own parents?

If you're managers, then manage the situation properly and delegate shifts to fit around your child's life?

She might have made up her mind @LittleTiger007 but she is looking for something which doesn't exist and which she can't have.