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Colleague has said I'm vain a few times

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Spottttty · 12/06/2024 06:56

Well not said it, but heavily implied it. I could understand if I'm going around saying 'Look at me I'm soo beautiful' but obviously this isn't the case.

She's said this because I sometimes put make up on or use a mirror at work at lunch. So what? Like it's not affecting her in any way.
She's made comments about 3 times, I've just laughed but next time I'll say something maybe?

It might just be friendly ribbing as she's nice otherwise but not sure what her goal is. She's someone who doesn't wear a scrap of make up and that's up to her, I'm not someone who can do that and that's just me.

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aridiculousargument · 12/06/2024 15:58

Allfur · 12/06/2024 15:54

Is cutting your nails ok?

not even remotely the same

Allfur · 12/06/2024 15:59

aridiculousargument · 12/06/2024 15:58

not even remotely the same

Why is it not the same?, its personal grooming that doesn't need to affect people nearby, they can look away

LifeInTheRaw · 12/06/2024 16:01

Oh dear OP.... the reason I think I like you, is that in the face of a lot of unreasonable judgement, you have retained an admirable sense of humour.
My twopenny worth is, for the way your post came across, is that this colleague is the offensive one.
She hasn't said a word to you, she's childishly mimicking your minimal check on your cosmetic application.
So how you can respond to her, I don't really know, without you also appearing childish.
It's not a canteen, it sounds more like a staff room where you can take a break from work, to eat drink read chat check mobile messages AND bloomin check your face... good grief, if your mascara had "run", is it more acceptable for you to be walking around with panda eyes?
No, I definitely think it's your colleague that's being rude.
Do your other colleagues see her mocking and mimicking you?
If yes, then it's even more upsetting for you, coz she is happy for everyone to potentially join in with the "oh isn't she vain" kinda reference.
For all she knows, you could have serious mental health challenges, and feel very insecure.
Her actions may well push such a person over the edge and cause you even more mental distress.
She probably wants to show off that she feels no need to apply make up, therefore mocks you.
She may not be trying to hurt you on purpose, but why do it to you when there's no excuse to do it?
I feel that because it was only a staff room kinda set up, and everyone else had stopped eating, then fine.
Got no idea how you handle any further derogatory actions from her.
If you're confident enough, when no others are around, just tell her that you don't appreciate her actions, and if she has a problem, please say now, so that the two of you can arrive at a reasonable way to go forward.
Good luck op...

Megifer · 12/06/2024 16:02

Allfur · 12/06/2024 15:54

Is cutting your nails ok?

No, why? Does applying mascara involve risking nail clippings flying all over the place?

Floorbard · 12/06/2024 16:04

Genuinely can’t believe the number of people clutching their pearls over the wild idea of someone reapplying makeup lightly in an informal break room 😆 get a life !

MzHz · 12/06/2024 16:04

RosesAndHellebores · 12/06/2024 07:20

Why on earth do you need to use a mirror in company? It is vain. It is also socially inappropriate.

WTF? I'm in my 50s and travel for work extensively, i attend conferences and meetings with some really dry and blokey blokes. I want to touch up the lippy or use lip gloss cos my lips are dry from the AC? i get out the mirror and I do it, it's quick and discreet and hurts nobody.

OP - NBU

Conkersinautumn · 12/06/2024 16:05

I've never seen anyone apply makeup in a space like that at work. I've worked in retail, offices, schools and libraries over the years. Toilets, yes, but never in a shared space like that. It's quite unusual, I do find people comment on things they find unusual or jarring.

Allfur · 12/06/2024 16:06

Megifer · 12/06/2024 16:02

No, why? Does applying mascara involve risking nail clippings flying all over the place?

You can cut your nails without it affecting anyone, plucking eyebrows ok?

AngelQuartz · 12/06/2024 16:07

Why is doing makeup in the canteen unacceptable… but it’s okay to do it in the TOILETS?

FFS, Mumsnet is the most batshit place on the internet.

OP, keep doing you. Ignore anyone that mimics you. There’s nowt as queer as folk -as we say in Yorkshire.

Mummy2024 · 12/06/2024 16:09

PuddlesPityParty · 12/06/2024 15:05

Because mocking easily becomes bullying. Mocking someone is just pure nasty. If you have something to say to someone, say it.

It also makes 0 sense. Your analogies are daft - should heels be banned incase they make a sound on a hard floor?

I completely agree, what ever I thought about someone doing it there is absolutely no way what so ever I would do what this person did to her.

It's playground bullying to me already

PostItInABook · 12/06/2024 16:11

I don’t believe some of these posters are real. How do they get through life with such a massive stick up their arse?

inamarina · 12/06/2024 16:13

HysteriaOfTheWanderingWomb · 12/06/2024 07:45

Vain is not a compliment no matter what mental gymnastics people are willing to suggest to try to justify or rationalise it.

If you have a relationship where taking the mutual Mick is your thing and this fits with that, fine. Otherwise she is being rude.

I have a colleague who sometimes applies make up at work, no one thinks it's odd, performative or disgusting it's just no big deal, it's like eating your lunch at your desk, or chatting about your weekend... Your colleagues sometimes see the human you beyond the job role, so what.

Your colleague mentioning this more than once and mimicking you makes me think that her preference to not wear make up isn't entirely 'morally neutral' in her mind and that she has some prejudices in her mind about the motives she thinks those who like to use make up are driven by.

How old is she, she sounds young and maybe insecure.

I think the flat voice response 'so you keep saying,' pp suggested is perfect. I'd be tempted to add 'and it's getting old'.

I have a colleague who sometimes applies make up at work, no one thinks it's odd, performative or disgusting it's just no big deal

Agree. I barely wear makeup myself, but I find the responses on this thread quite surprising.
Some people finding it “revolting” and “offensive” - really? 😵‍💫

Megifer · 12/06/2024 16:14

Allfur · 12/06/2024 16:06

You can cut your nails without it affecting anyone, plucking eyebrows ok?

Not really as they do fling off everywhere, same with eyebrow plucking.

Shall we introduce murder into this? Murder in a canteen is not ok either.

Opinionwontchangeluv · 12/06/2024 16:16

Only jealous insecure women care about thee things.
Her jealously isn't your problem, my reply would be why are you so concerned

Cocteautriplets · 12/06/2024 16:17

Spottttty · 12/06/2024 07:04

Nope it's a group of us at lunch sitting together in the canteen. Some talking, some on their phones, some reading. I don't see how me putting on a bit of concealer or mascara is so offensive 🤣

It’s a pretty self absorbed and vain thing to do in a canteen. You could easily take yourself to the loo and do it in peace if you don’t like her comments.

PinkFishies · 12/06/2024 16:22

I mean, I’ve seen some absolutely outrageous things in public such as full on fist fights, mugging, someone taking a dump in a doorway, streakers/flashes (all men), couples basically dry humping each other and extreme PDA. So seeing a woman look into a mirror or apply some concealer … meh, wouldn’t bat a bloody eyelid. It’s evident a lot of posters on here have lived some incredibly sheltered lives. Quite sad.

FlissyPaps · 12/06/2024 16:24

Cocteautriplets · 12/06/2024 16:17

It’s a pretty self absorbed and vain thing to do in a canteen. You could easily take yourself to the loo and do it in peace if you don’t like her comments.

What about the ladies who just want to have a piss or poo in peace and then wash their hands? But there’s someone applying makeup at the sink they need to use?

Why is putting makeup on in a communal area a problem?

Rugs1 · 12/06/2024 16:26

I am not somewhere who wears much make up, and i do see other women touching up their make up in office (open plan), and noone thinks anything of it.

Why would that offend anyone? Also, pls note, and I know this is not the case here, sometimes it can be a confidence thing that women wear and check make up etc.. not vanity. Sometimes they just want to - who cares ,let them be !

Abra1t · 12/06/2024 16:27

Spottttty · 12/06/2024 07:04

It's also not for her to dictate where I do it

Putting on makeup and grooming shouldn't really be done where people are eating, to be fair.

HysteriaOfTheWanderingWomb · 12/06/2024 16:28

Maelil01 · 12/06/2024 14:39

The important word in all that is “personal”!

No one wants to see others’ “personal” grooming. It actually doesn’t matter what OP thinks. If here people find it unacceptable then it’s unreasonable for her to continue.

Neither has it anything to do with feminism. I doubt any man would get much support for whipping out his electric clippers to trim his beard in public.

Edited

To be fair, in the royal court of Louis 14th of France getting invited to watch the king be woken and have his morning ablutions (washed, shaved and breakfasted) at The Getting Up Ceremony was considered the mark of heighest royal favour and was a sought after event of privelage for people of status.

funny how social conventions and attitudes are rather fluid, one might even say, arbitrary.

FlissyPaps · 12/06/2024 16:29

Abra1t · 12/06/2024 16:27

Putting on makeup and grooming shouldn't really be done where people are eating, to be fair.

Why? What’s the risk?

Cantrushart · 12/06/2024 16:33

You are within your rights to put your makeup on wherever you like. She is within her rights to react to that in a way that she thinks its appropriate. If you don't like it, do it somewhere else.

Megifer · 12/06/2024 16:36

Abra1t · 12/06/2024 16:27

Putting on makeup and grooming shouldn't really be done where people are eating, to be fair.

What could happen to someones food if someone is putting mascara on 2 feet away?

Allfur · 12/06/2024 16:36

Megifer · 12/06/2024 16:14

Not really as they do fling off everywhere, same with eyebrow plucking.

Shall we introduce murder into this? Murder in a canteen is not ok either.

Murder is not part of personal grooming, unless you're some kind of weird psycho killer

FlissyPaps · 12/06/2024 16:37

Cantrushart · 12/06/2024 16:33

You are within your rights to put your makeup on wherever you like. She is within her rights to react to that in a way that she thinks its appropriate. If you don't like it, do it somewhere else.

Nice way of putting people are within their rights to be bullies and nasty shits.

OP please don’t listen to this absolute drivel.

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