To find what’s happened to Michael Mosley quite anxiety provoking

[Glasto73lover]

It’s that idea of never really knowing what’s going to happen- the idea that we walk such a fine line in life. If you think too much about it, you probably wouldn’t leave the house.!

A close family member died suddenly and tragically a decade ago - literally dropped dead at home age 48 - something went pop in their head. So you genuinely don’t know when your time is up.

It’s that idea of a chain of consequence that can go so horribly wrong too- people always say ‘oh but you could get hit by a bus’ - stuff like this actually makes me really anxious. So many what ifs.

For Michael Moseley - a chain of probably inconsequential decisions may have led to his death- not having a phone on him, choosing to undertake a walk that in the U.K. is nothing but in that heat, was devastating and probably caused his death.

It makes me anxious that I won’t know if I am making those decisions - am I making sense? I think as I have got older, I have become more anxious and risk averse (thanks menopause) and as a result, you could end up not leaving the house. How do you choose a sensible approach? Not too much risk but some!

But I also want to live my life too!! I guess I find incidents like this quite difficult!

I guess always having a phone, not undertaking walks in intense heat in an unfamiliar place etc are the common sense points that will come out of this tragedy.

Aibu to find it anxiety provoking tho?!

But she didn't play any silly games did she? And now she will have to deal with the consequences for decades.

I didn’t.

Why would that be unreasonable? 😵‍💫

Maybe, but even that might have been less traumatic (and private) for him and for his family than this huge search, with all the uncertainty and journalists picking over everything.

Which isn't to heap blame on the poor man.

The small "good" that this "ill wind" can bring is if we all quietly learn the lessons of MM's misjudgment. It's how we gain a lot of wisdom through life.

My dad died suddenly from lifestyle illness when I was a child. There were opportunities for medical intervention that could have resulted in reducing the risk of death, but his pride resulted in him downplaying the severity of his symptoms, and the GP was lacking in their response given his medical history.

This is why I have an interest in health and fitness. I'm not going to be immortal, nor would I want to be, but living a healthy, active lifestyle improves my odds of living well within my lifespan. There are no guarentees though. If nothing else, I'll have enjoyed life along the way and when I've got away with stupid shit, it'll give my loved ones some funny memories to laugh over at my funeral.

I've blundered into stupid shit and got away with it. I'm sure there's plenty more daft moments ahead despite my best efforts at planning. To eliminate the risk of that by living life as conservatively as possible isn't worth it to me.

It's tragic and no doubt an abrupt death where there were opportunities to avoid that situation will trigger anger as part of the grief process of his loved ones. Sudden death is hard for the bereaved, but there's also the flip side that suffering was not prolonged. MM often referred to his father's premature death and that he was also reaching early stages of ongoing poor health which he managed to turn around. I hope at some point it is a consoltion that while his death is premature, it was not preceeded by years of potentially preventable poor health inhibiting his quality of life which he strived to avoid.

I shall miss his pragmatic, accessible approach to improving health.

I am 58, when I was 34 my husband had a heart attack in the middle of the night & died in our house he was we thought fit & healthy, he was 39!

I was absolutely furious with him at times for absolutely no reason other than dying!

I am again furious today on behalf of MM's wife, why didn't he wait for the boat, get on the bus, stop & have a drink in one of the restaurants, shout when he got so close to the resort.

It feels like such a waste of a life & a man who was doing so much for other people, I was in tears today listening to James O'Brien who had people phoning in to say how he had helped them & changed their lives!

It's such a tragedy! And I'm really sorry for his family!
My husband went out for his daily walk today, no distance - but I checked he had his phone!

Don't be so afraid of dying that you forget to live, OP.

We're all going to die. We're all on the same journey. Best thing is to enjoy the ride and not fret about how long it will be till we reach the destination. There isn't a timetable, so none of us knows.

Why would she get abandoned by her married friends? Surely they will be supporting her. It's a horrible thing to say!

I think having a mobile makes us feel invincible, but until 25 years ago, no-one had one, we went out all the time with people not knowing exactly where we were.

If you have ever had your phone run out of battery when you need it, you could be 'blamed'- but these things happen all the time.

You could chip everyone and know where they were at all times. No thanks.

There is a price paid for freedom, he might have felt free during that walk, went the wrong way, became confused and suddenly that 'media detox' he was going to write about went wrong, very wrong.

There but for the Grace of God and all that.

"Don't be so afraid of dying that you forget to live"

The wisest words on this thread.

I was struggling to place the feeling, but yes I think I feel this too… especially the recent interview that said he wants to grow old to see his grandkids etc. I can’t stop wondering what on earth he was thinking. His poor wife.

Three years ago, something literally did go ‘pop’ in my head. I was 40 years old and it happened completely unexpectedly, without any prior warning. I spent just under a week in hospital recovering from the brain haemorrhage but I live life now as if every day could be my last! I know it sounds corny but it’s true.
I feel so, so sad for Michael Mosley. Such a lovely man, his poor family left without a husband and father. However at least he seemed to have lived a happy life and made a lot of difference to a great many people.

I don’t get the anxiety provoking or the shock. We live on a Greek island and no one apart from tourists walk in the extreme heat. We don’t go out between 10 and 6 and only into an air conditioned car with windows firmly closed. I just don’t understand the tourist mentality. Not surprisingly what happened to Dr Moseley is not that rare when tourists visit our island or they go for a swim in a beach clearly sign posted having underwater currents - beggars belief why someone would do this.

Op, your feelings are completely valid, but it’s important to have some perspective too.
what happened to Michael Mosley is absolutely terrible, but it was a tragic accident.
If it causes you anxiety and worry to this level, would you consider going for some cbt? Life is for living.

So true.

Life is literally too short to be spent worrying about things like this. Shit happens.

Glad you are ok now - must have been scary. My relative had a cerebral haemorrhage but sadly didn’t make it- there were signs for the weeks before including a ‘thunderclap’ headache but no one picked up on it. It’s definitely given me more of an anxiety about these kinds of events xx

I can’t stop thinking about him because I just liked him so damn much!

I loved watching him on TV. I recently watched that show where he appears as a cashier to review people’s shopping. Such a likeable guy and he did so much for so many.

He left a legacy and had a lot to be proud of.

Thanks - yes - I think mine stems a lot from menopause too - it’s raised anxiety levels a lot!

All these people saying they are angry at him
are probably putting their life at risk every day through poor diets / being overweight etc. Sure it wasn’t a sensible idea, but the guy was pretty fit and was doing everything he could to stay as active as possible. Much more so than many do. I don’t think we have a right to judge him, we don’t even know the full story yet. RIP Michael, I always enjoyed his programmes and sensible approach to diet and fitness. I’m sure he’s saved many life’s over the years

It's not your place to feel anger unless you know him

Its not your place to tell people what to do

But we don’t know how or why he died yet. Seems probable from the description that it was due to the heat, but people just shouldn’t be making assumptions about what he did, until we know for sure. Tbh, from the diagram, it looked as if he was quite near to civilisation, so wasn’t too far off the beaten track, so he might have just taken a wrong turn, slightly off the track, then seems to have tried to get back to where he needed to be.

@Glasto73lover thank you. I’m completely fine now but yes, it was so frightening how it could just happen so suddenly with no prior warning. It was during Covid times too so I was alone in hospital and not allowed visitors. I’m sorry for your relative. It really does make you re-evaluate life. Life can be taken away so cruelly, but we must live our lives too and not be afraid to do that.

I hear you, it’s a fucker isn’t it.
Be kind to yourself <3

I don't think fasting and some of his other diet recommendations were particularly healthy actually.