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To find what’s happened to Michael Mosley quite anxiety provoking

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Glasto73lover · 10/06/2024 18:14

It’s that idea of never really knowing what’s going to happen- the idea that we walk such a fine line in life. If you think too much about it, you probably wouldn’t leave the house.!

A close family member died suddenly and tragically a decade ago - literally dropped dead at home age 48 - something went pop in their head. So you genuinely don’t know when your time is up.

It’s that idea of a chain of consequence that can go so horribly wrong too- people always say ‘oh but you could get hit by a bus’ - stuff like this actually makes me really anxious. So many what ifs.

For Michael Moseley - a chain of probably inconsequential decisions may have led to his death- not having a phone on him, choosing to undertake a walk that in the U.K. is nothing but in that heat, was devastating and probably caused his death.

It makes me anxious that I won’t know if I am making those decisions - am I making sense? I think as I have got older, I have become more anxious and risk averse (thanks menopause) and as a result, you could end up not leaving the house. How do you choose a sensible approach? Not too much risk but some!

But I also want to live my life too!! I guess I find incidents like this quite difficult!

I guess always having a phone, not undertaking walks in intense heat in an unfamiliar place etc are the common sense points that will come out of this tragedy.

Aibu to find it anxiety provoking tho?!

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Forfuckssaketheearthisnotflat · 14/06/2024 22:59

The last celebrity death that truly upset me was George Michael, I was such a fan from a teenager and it was such a shock for him to die at such a young age, however he died at home, in his own bed apparently in his sleep, although still tragic he didn’t suffer, if someone dies peacefully it can bring enormous comfort to those left behind, many of us on here can’t bear to think about what Michael Mosley went through in his last hours and I feel so much for his family that they have to live with that trauma, I truly hope they find some peace and draw comfort that he was so well loved and respected.

BeeBellatrix · 14/06/2024 23:37

Forfuckssaketheearthisnotflat · 14/06/2024 22:59

The last celebrity death that truly upset me was George Michael, I was such a fan from a teenager and it was such a shock for him to die at such a young age, however he died at home, in his own bed apparently in his sleep, although still tragic he didn’t suffer, if someone dies peacefully it can bring enormous comfort to those left behind, many of us on here can’t bear to think about what Michael Mosley went through in his last hours and I feel so much for his family that they have to live with that trauma, I truly hope they find some peace and draw comfort that he was so well loved and respected.

Yes, George Michael upset me a lot too. He was such a star, so full of life in his heyday, and the vision of him alone on Christmas morning just seemed so poignant and sad. I think he really was sad at the end of his life, he’d become a recluse.
I’ve been so upset by MM’s passing too… mostly by the thought of his body lying undiscovered for so long and his family not knowing where he was for all those days. But at least we can say he seemed a very happy man, led an interesting and fulfilling life and was loved… and that counts for a lot. I just hope his family can find peace as it must be very difficult to come to terms with such trauma.

LoveRules · 15/06/2024 07:02

This thread is reassuring me to know I'm not the only one affected by this celebrity death and the untold trauma his loved ones are suffering.

I think I'm affected by the preventable aspects of his death and how his decisions lead to an unnecessary end to his life partly because early in the year some friends of ours had to deal with their happy popular young son deciding on a whim to end his life which has been unfathomably hard for his close family. Seeing the raw shock and sorrow a preventable death has caused by his ceasing to exist at close range maybe makes me feel the MM disappearance and death more than I might have before.

I'm glad I'm not alone in being affected by his unexpected and very tragic death.

godmum56 · 15/06/2024 09:49

Calliopespa · 12/06/2024 10:12

Yes I agree with this - and actually I think it’s why the MM tragedy has struck everyone so much. He was a kind of poster boy for the “ I can take control of this mortality thing” movement.

I don’t mean to deride the enormous assistance he gave to people with pre diabetes etc. But I think the way the public embrace this type of advice falls in the same category as that whole fish oil thing years back. Robert Winston, among others, discussed how fish oils could help with certain cognitive issues. That prompted people to start stuffing children, pregnant women etc with fish oil tablets in the bid to build a super brain.

Yes, there are things we can do that tend towards promoting health, but that doesn’t guarantee we will pass through the pearly gates in the precise ranking order of average step counts or level of commitment to a Mediterranean diet. But the modern mindset is so geared towards trying to control the uncontrollable that the relatively limited impact of this in the whole mix of genes, chance, disease etc doesn’t sink in. It’s as if buying a peloton should come with a certificate of five years years stay of execution issued by the Grim Reaper.

yup, its like the "fighting cancer" and "losing the battle" against a terminal illness. I think people say it as a kind of reassurance to themselves that they would fight harder....do more....be stronger. As the widow of someone who dies from an incurable cancer its hurtful and rage inducing. I do think though that there are two ends to the scale......at one end there is risk mitigation of all kinds....not smoking, carrying a mobile phone, yes carrying a whistle, fitting smoke alarms etc.......at the other end there's the fish oil/kale/peloton mindset attempting to control the uncontrollable. They aren't the same

Disturbia81 · 15/06/2024 09:49

I think I wouldn't be thinking of it so much if he had died on the beach with his wife or something, still sad at the loss but it's just the way it happened and how his body was left out, alone for all that time. Such a well known and loved man just left undiscovered. And his family won't even be able to see him. I got a lot of closure being able to see my families bodies. I felt similar with Julian Sands but not as much. Tragic all round

godmum56 · 15/06/2024 09:50

LoveRules · 15/06/2024 07:02

This thread is reassuring me to know I'm not the only one affected by this celebrity death and the untold trauma his loved ones are suffering.

I think I'm affected by the preventable aspects of his death and how his decisions lead to an unnecessary end to his life partly because early in the year some friends of ours had to deal with their happy popular young son deciding on a whim to end his life which has been unfathomably hard for his close family. Seeing the raw shock and sorrow a preventable death has caused by his ceasing to exist at close range maybe makes me feel the MM disappearance and death more than I might have before.

I'm glad I'm not alone in being affected by his unexpected and very tragic death.

with respect, we can't know what is in someone else's head. Why is it so certain it was a whim?

Tinysoxxx · 15/06/2024 10:12

godmum56 · 15/06/2024 09:50

with respect, we can't know what is in someone else's head. Why is it so certain it was a whim?

Bloody hell, this is what you take from this post and then post it?

The answer is very well known and published by researchers studying survivors - it is often done on a whim. Look it up if you want to know more.

Sorry for what happened @LoveRules

(edited to say this was in response to tragic circumstances of loss of a child not about Michael Mosley)

LoveRules · 15/06/2024 13:52

@godmum56 is such an interesting paradox isn't it I know 50 year olds who run a chemical free home, eat only organically produced food, no meat no sugar and exercise vigorously regularly yet choose to travel by motorbike most days.

Re the whim question - I have actually wondered about MM whether he was deliberately taking a 'I might be some time' walk. It's unlikely but we will never know. The teen we had in our extended tribe was popular and well loved happy and going places but had drunk an entire bottle of gin alone which makes his parents believe it was a tragic drunken accident. On a whim. They weren't known to have any MH issues.

godmum56 · 15/06/2024 14:24

So the whim might not have been a whim but have been a bad decusion regarding alcohol rather than an out of the blue "fancy" to commit suicide? Of course tragic but to me more believable than a whim thought process which to me would be something like "what shall I do today? Oh I think I will do xxx" Maybe we are using the word whim differently?

Neuroticme · 15/06/2024 15:36

This is a genuine question. How do I turn off notifications of this thread please. I'm finding it too much now and I don't want to see every time someone posts here? Thanks

UnctuousUnicorns · 15/06/2024 15:39

Neuroticme · 15/06/2024 15:36

This is a genuine question. How do I turn off notifications of this thread please. I'm finding it too much now and I don't want to see every time someone posts here? Thanks

Click "Unwatch Thread" at bottom left.

Neuroticme · 15/06/2024 15:40

I did that and it's still happening...

Neuroticme · 15/06/2024 15:43

I think I've done it now. Thanks @UnctuousUnicorns

QueenMegan · 15/06/2024 15:44

Raised a Catholic do death is in our dna. It can happen to anyone at any time. So just got to make the most of the life we have

Thisoldheartofmine · 15/06/2024 16:03

@Neuroticme you need to click on hide thread .
For me on my phone I go to the top of the page and there's a white circle with a little downward pointing v.
If you click on that you get different options.

chaosmaker · 15/06/2024 17:36

I thoroughly enjoyed the programme about Michael Moseley and his career and lots of stuff I never knew he did. I discovered him through the 800 calorie blood sugar diet and then started watching and listening to him on various topics. This is currently on iplayer and there is also a BBC sounds programme that includes the last 'Just One Thing' he recorded before the holiday.

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