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To be AMAZED at this cms calculation?

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whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:40

Recently split from DS’s dad. He won’t communicate or see ds, so after several weeks I contacted cms. They are getting in touch with him but… the claim is for 730 a month?!? He earns almost 80k? How can this be right?

meanwhile, I’m earning 46k and paying 1,700 in nursery costs and all other costs for ds?

how on earth is that supposed to be fair?! This calculation is also assuming he continues not to see ds. If he wants him a night or more then costs reduce further… basically he can do what he wants and I’m expected to pick up the financial pieces no matter what.

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WoodForTreesSeeing · 10/06/2024 19:04

Scarletttulips · 10/06/2024 18:41

DF is on a 16 hour week and pays 15% childcare with the state paying the rest.

Fathers pay £150 per month so no where near close.

Drop your hours for a couple of years and you’ll have more time for your child.

But why should she drop her hours when he gets to work however much he wants? Can you see how unfair it it?

nextdoornightmares · 10/06/2024 19:04

ArmidilloToes · 10/06/2024 18:42

Im not sure why you wouldn't be entitled to UC. You can earn upto £50000 per annum and claim UC as a single person.

You can earn more than that. There is no set income limit on UC. Depending on many factors including number of children, if you rent, health conditions, childcare etc, you could earn much more than 50k and still get a UC payment.

Mothmansknickers · 10/06/2024 19:05

It matters not that this is a lot of money for most people. What matters is that he's paying hardly any of his income to take care of his child.
No, it's not fair at all.

coxesorangepippin · 10/06/2024 19:06

My gast is blabbered by the responses on here

Namely:

Yet another reason many women could do with thinking a little longer and harder if having a child is something they really want to do

^

What about the dad??!?! He's 50% responsible?

Drop your hours for a couple of years and you’ll have more time for your child.

^

Yeah, great idea. Less pension, less seniority at work. Fucking marvellous.

Whereas Wonderdad has renounced all responsibility, and is working as he pleases.

AllTheChaos · 10/06/2024 19:07

@TVD2103 in that case, so he doesn’t have to contribute to nursery costs, Op should stop working, and he should pay her mortgage, bills, pension, and everything else her wages cover, yes? So, say £3k a month should cover it? I mean, I’d have thought he’d be better off just paying half the costs of raising HIS CHILD

coxesorangepippin · 10/06/2024 19:07

Obviously it's meant to say gast is flabbered, not blabbered

Mothmansknickers · 10/06/2024 19:07

Why women stick up for these fking men is beyond me.

Thulpelly · 10/06/2024 19:07

TVD2103 · 10/06/2024 13:50

Why should he pay for you to basically go to work? Because that’s what nursery costs are.

ignore this OP, clearly a disgruntled troll

LionBarPlease · 10/06/2024 19:07

sixtyandsomething · 10/06/2024 13:45

both. Your income is MASSIVE. His contribution is HUGE. I think you are probably on 4x or 5x what I was - and what others I know are.

Written in the style and inaccuracy of the Daily Mail’s finest.

Thulpelly · 10/06/2024 19:09

Also it’s ridiculous, of course he should be paying more - a percentage of his income - if he was a decent person.

Sorry OP, not sure what to advise.

Mimimimi1234 · 10/06/2024 19:10

Foxblue · 10/06/2024 13:52

Why should she pay nursery costs so that he can go to work, by that logic?

I couldnt understand that comment either, like going to work is a hobby you do, honestly that made my bloody boil.

Mulhollandmagoo · 10/06/2024 19:11

That does sound a bit shit to be honest, you're still left with nearly £1000 to pay just for nursery, that doesn't include anything else, when you've gone from having two wages coming in to one, that is a relatively small amount.

I don't know how it works, but could you speak with a solicitor (if you already have one to handle your divorce) about a financial settlement, for nursery fees/childcare/extra curricular activities etc? He should be paying half the costs, he's half his child!!

WoodForTreesSeeing · 10/06/2024 19:11

sixtyandsomething · 10/06/2024 19:00

mega mega mega loaded, not only does she has this massive salary, she is also raking in over £700 a month in CM!

Anyone who can't see this is stonking rich is more than a little out of touch!

Again, calm your jealousy down and have a little think.

This mother may have to stop work as she is saddled with all the nursery costs whilst the dad works as much as he wants.

Try and pretend you aren’t sexist for a second and see if you think this is fair?

Your overuse of capitals and all this ‘mega mega’ stuff makes you sound quite immature btw.

GoFigure235 · 10/06/2024 19:12

Yet another reason many women could do with thinking a little longer and harder if having a child is something they really want to do

This is not a woman issue.

outnumbered1987 · 10/06/2024 19:12

I completely agree with you, that is absolutely ridiculous. It’s a broken system and it annoys me that people justify it by saying that other people contribute less. You and your son deserve better.

GCAcademic · 10/06/2024 19:12

helpfulperson · 10/06/2024 14:22

But when you were married you weren't contributing 50% to the cost of the child and running the house so he subsidised you then.

That's quite an assumption, isn't it? What makes you say that?

Cyanobacterium · 10/06/2024 19:12

Are women all brainwashed these days?

Not all, but some seem to be, yes.

Unfortunately, the system is very unfair. And some men are beyond appalling.

Otherstories2002 · 10/06/2024 19:14

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:48

@PrincessTeaSet

he also wants to work?

im just not the scumbag who walked out on ds, but apparently i now also face a financial penalty for that?

This is the cost of being resident parent. You want to swap it give him custody.

Timeforachocolate · 10/06/2024 19:15

Ignoring your lack of financial support for your ex.

have you claimed for the new Government free hours for childcare? That should help reduce the 1700 a month??

kittybiscuits · 10/06/2024 19:15

Do keep in mind that the Tories reduced the level of child maintenance. It's pitiful and there are so many ways not to pay, plus CMS are useless at enforcing it. I'm sorry, OP, that you had to read so many shitty and inappropriate comments. My ex told the children he couldn't afford to eat because of the child maintenance I was making him pay. I had to show them his income on the CMS paperwork to stop them feeling sorry for him. He lied about everything and hid all of his income so he ended up paying less than £100 per month. Women should be standing up for each other in the face of this state sanctioned financial abuse, not piling on in support of the abusers.

Cerealkiller4U · 10/06/2024 19:16

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:44

@AIfunguy i honestly thought people would advise me on how to correct it!!! How can anyone think this is anything other than a joke? Are women all brainwashed these days? I honestly can’t believe he gets away with it

Some women get nothing.

the system isn’t fair at all. But you’ve got a ton of a lot more than most.

Starlightstarbright3 · 10/06/2024 19:17

There are some ridiculous comments on here . He is paying for you to work ???

reduce your hours so you can get benefits ?

and the best give him custody ???? He doesn’t even want to see the child .. who the hell wants to hand there 11 month old to someone who doesn’t want them

Timeforachocolate · 10/06/2024 19:17

From Sept 2024, 15 free hours for 9 months old plus.
from 25, 30 hours free.

if aged 3-4 now then 30 hours.

WoodForTreesSeeing · 10/06/2024 19:17

It’s so depressing that so many women here are raising the next generation and passing on their sexist views. I just hope their kids have other good role models.

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 19:18

Heyheyitsanotherday · 10/06/2024 17:31

I hear you op. It’s neither right nor fair. I’m aghast at the amount of posters on here who don’t see that. I’m really sorry. What a scum bag! Some men don’t deserve the title “dad”. Bastard.

@Heyheyitsanotherday thanks for sharing my frustration and horror. Women really need to stand up for one another and I can only assume many people on this thread are either men or in dire need of an education!

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