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This covid merry-go-round is never going to end, is it

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sixtyandsomething · 09/06/2024 20:39

covid again, oxygen monitors again, off work again, informing all vulnerable contacts again, feeling terrible again. I have had 8 immunisations. Well, at least it isn't anything like as bad as it could be without immunisations. But this is never going to end, is it. Every year, at least 2 immunisations, and at least 2 illnesses, until the one that finishes me off , I suppose. That is without counting the disruption when someone else tests positive, instead of me.

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TorturedPoetsDepartmentAnthology · 11/06/2024 16:23

1Week · 11/06/2024 15:12

I think you are just a tiny bit clenched.

You can ALWAYS question authority.

It is the duty of public health officials to explain, explain and explain again no matter how many times they've said it. Prove themselves trustworthy, over and over again.

Coercion, dismissal and authoritarian tactics always produce backlash, its as predictable as sunrise. You can apply it to any sphere in life you like.

(I say that too as someone who was severely immunocompromised at the time. Thankfully not now. )

I question authority, of course I do. I ask my doctors about medicines and treatments and the pros and cons. I’ve never received any negativity, only information.

I ask in a respectful way and they treat me in a respectful way. I’ve been immunocompromised all my life, I don’t value the interjections of randomers questioning it. I’m not angry, it’s plain silly though!

Edit to add- these posters aren’t questioning authority or public officials either, they’re questioning strangers online about their health. It’s intrusive to assume people haven’t considered their own options.

Flopsythebunny · 11/06/2024 16:36

1Week · 11/06/2024 00:55

This attitude helps, how, exactly?

If there's incorrect information out there it should be countered with facts.
Public health is about educating the layman, explaining what's known and unknown.
That is not what happened.
If there's downsides - which of course there are, to any policy proposal - you can't expect people negatively affected to accept it and jeer at them when they protest. The authorities have totally cut the legs from under themselves with their messaging. There's no longer any trust there

The dismissal and condescension towards people with different concerns to yours will have reverberating effects for a long time to come.

A line of smiley faces is easy.

You do the educating if that's your thing. I'll just piss myself laughing

Flopsythebunny · 11/06/2024 16:39

Rationalmum · 11/06/2024 13:32

Perhaps you could share the year that all your health issues begun to help rule out what the root cause was?

Why, do you have some essential oils that will cure it?

1Week · 11/06/2024 16:50

Flopsythebunny · 11/06/2024 16:36

You do the educating if that's your thing. I'll just piss myself laughing

Like I said - not helpful.
If you want to indulge yourself, go right ahead. Just don't fool yourself that you're in any way superior.

1Week · 11/06/2024 16:57

TorturedPoetsDepartmentAnthology · 11/06/2024 16:23

I question authority, of course I do. I ask my doctors about medicines and treatments and the pros and cons. I’ve never received any negativity, only information.

I ask in a respectful way and they treat me in a respectful way. I’ve been immunocompromised all my life, I don’t value the interjections of randomers questioning it. I’m not angry, it’s plain silly though!

Edit to add- these posters aren’t questioning authority or public officials either, they’re questioning strangers online about their health. It’s intrusive to assume people haven’t considered their own options.

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I agree with a lot there.
There has been a lot of venom thrown at those who have questioned political decisions during this whole era, belittling them and dismissive. I wasn't even one of them for the very most part! Very very polarising

Edited for typo

midgetastic · 11/06/2024 17:21

There is questioning From a position of basic background knowledge and ability to handle data and an open mind

And questioning as a means to try and boost your own self esteem, or to try and deny reality, or change the world to something more suited to you personally or just to mess people around and get a temporary feeling or being powerful and important

Coffeeinsunshine · 11/06/2024 17:25

Public health shouldn't be polarising or political - it's a shame it has come to this.

Whyhaveibeencutoutofmamsnot · 11/06/2024 18:24

Rationalmum · 11/06/2024 13:28

Surely you realise that virus are subatomic and can pass through 95% of blue face masks? This has been proven multiple times.

Also blue face masks have now been shown to contain massive amounts of micro plastics which cause illness. That's why I didn't use the masks.

How can viruses be subatomic (protons, electrons, neutrons quarks mesons.....)
Viruses are made up of DNA, RNA and proteins all of which are molecules with atomic weights in their thousands.
Still pretty small though. Some can get through the basic masks when the wearer coughs or sneezes but don't get quite as far. Viruses can't actually walk or fly.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 11/06/2024 18:36

Rationalmum · 10/06/2024 21:31

People died with COVID not from COVID

People died FROM COVID.

THE STUPID is also distressingly communicable, apparently.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 11/06/2024 18:39

Rationalmum · 10/06/2024 21:35

I have spend hundreds of hours listening to eminent epidemiologists and virologists. I don't take any information whatsoever from mainstream media as they are well known to follow the same narrative of the special interests that own them,.and funnily enough, many of these TV doctors are now backtracking such as Dr Boz below 👇🏻

https://www.youtube.com/live/v3N-uFfvU5s?si=Zysc15J-OOUEr1sX

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Eminent. Yeah, sure. Eminent in the rabbit hole,
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dorey69 · 11/06/2024 18:44

sixtyandsomething · 09/06/2024 20:39

covid again, oxygen monitors again, off work again, informing all vulnerable contacts again, feeling terrible again. I have had 8 immunisations. Well, at least it isn't anything like as bad as it could be without immunisations. But this is never going to end, is it. Every year, at least 2 immunisations, and at least 2 illnesses, until the one that finishes me off , I suppose. That is without counting the disruption when someone else tests positive, instead of me.

The vaccines don’t stop you getting COVID, it was a con. And will do your body and immune system more harm. I’ve told my dad not to have any more.
they messed up his immune system and now has a autoimmune condition because of the jabs. All you can do is mask up in busy places as I still do. It’s to protect myself and I don’t care if people look at me either. I have a vulnerable health condition and i protected myself and touch wood. I’ve not had it for 18 months.
the government and pharmaceutical companies are making billions off this jab and it doesn’t stop you getting COVID unfortunately.
sorry you’re not well but antihistamines stop the inflammatory side of COVID.
get well soon,

midgetastic · 11/06/2024 18:49

Oh - how do you know the condition is due to the jabs? Perhaps that's my problem as well - it would be good to get to the bottom of this - please explain

cremebrulait · 11/06/2024 19:19

sixtyandsomething · 09/06/2024 20:39

covid again, oxygen monitors again, off work again, informing all vulnerable contacts again, feeling terrible again. I have had 8 immunisations. Well, at least it isn't anything like as bad as it could be without immunisations. But this is never going to end, is it. Every year, at least 2 immunisations, and at least 2 illnesses, until the one that finishes me off , I suppose. That is without counting the disruption when someone else tests positive, instead of me.

I highly recommend:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5K0tLRm3jL6sgMCcIIv9sN?si=djTn3LtJTp-kGZneCe3sKA

Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5K0tLRm3jL6sgMCcIIv9sN?si=djTn3LtJTp-kGZneCe3sKA

sixtyandsomething · 11/06/2024 19:23

midgetastic · 11/06/2024 15:15

How are you feeling today ?

its been a rough day. Thank you for asking

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sixtyandsomething · 11/06/2024 19:26

I can't really open links. So please say what the link is,

(except if it is something silly saying vaccines make you ill or something, when all the worldwide meta data analysis very clearly and unequivocally shows that you are many times more likely to die of covid if you are not vaccinated.)

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midgetastic · 11/06/2024 19:46

HopeTomorrow is better

PracticeorPractise · 11/06/2024 19:48

@dorey69 - it was never claimed to stop you getting Covid FFS. Just like a flu vaccination doesn't prevent you getting flu. It helps your body manage the response to it.

Guessing you're a flat earther too?

NicolaC17 · 11/06/2024 20:41

Are you looking after yourself in other ways OP? Vitamins, exercise, daily sunlight - general things to boost your immune system? Mullein drops are really good for the lungs too.

OldPerson · 11/06/2024 20:45

Nope I've heard nothing of a new scare in the Care industry. So not sure where you work?

Are you the vulnerable person?

Covid now, is no more serious than winter flu.

I don't know how you coped before Covid, but most of us carried on as normal with winter flu'.

The vulnerable need to protect themselves, and we should make that easier for the vulnerable. But seriously, absolutely no alerts have been put out about a new Covid threat?

sixtyandsomething · 11/06/2024 20:48

NicolaC17 · 11/06/2024 20:41

Are you looking after yourself in other ways OP? Vitamins, exercise, daily sunlight - general things to boost your immune system? Mullein drops are really good for the lungs too.

yes thank you, I do all these things

edit- well, I have not heard of mullien drops, but I do the other things

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sixtyandsomething · 11/06/2024 20:53

OldPerson · 11/06/2024 20:45

Nope I've heard nothing of a new scare in the Care industry. So not sure where you work?

Are you the vulnerable person?

Covid now, is no more serious than winter flu.

I don't know how you coped before Covid, but most of us carried on as normal with winter flu'.

The vulnerable need to protect themselves, and we should make that easier for the vulnerable. But seriously, absolutely no alerts have been put out about a new Covid threat?

I don't think there is a new covid scare, just the ongoing situation. I wouldn't ever trivialise flu, having lost relatives and colleagues to it in the past, not all through death, some just leaving jobs through being disabled by it. Even so, I think covid is worse in some respects - it seems to be easier to catch, for one thing. I am up to date with all flu and covid jabs, and have had approx 15 hospital inpatient days with covid in the last 3 years, and 0 with flu! I have tested positive for flu once, I think, but that was as concurrent with covid, not alone. I think I have had genuine flu twice in my life probably, and covid about 5 or 6 times now, just since 2020, and I assume I will keep catching it once or twice a year, even with jabs.

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dorey69 · 11/06/2024 21:14

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Donsyb · 11/06/2024 21:32

Rationalmum · 10/06/2024 13:51

I have only had COVID once in 2019, not had flu since, had a few regular colds (but that's normal isn't it)

I haven't had a single COVID vaccine.

Can anyone explain why I am so healthy despite not having the vaccine?

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You have a particularly robust immune system? Lucky genetics?

Silvers11 · 11/06/2024 21:35

@sixtyandsomething so sorry you are being ill with Covid so often. You are not alone and for you and others, it obviously is like a merry-go-round and I feel for you.

Have they ever been able to check your response to the vaccines? I believe for some people, they have little 'protective' value at all and it sounds like you may fall into that category as you are catching it so often. Not what you want to hear of course, but that leaves you very vulnerable and as you say, it's still very much out there.

The biggest problem with it, is that people don't have symptoms when they first get it but can still spread it. Many people may not even know that they have it at all, but can still pass it on - and we are no longer required to test ( although some still do).

I don't know what else I can say, except that I agree with where you are coming from. Hope this bout of it isn't severe and you recover quickly

EDITED TO ADD: To those posters saying it is no worse than flu - flu also kills the vulnerable, but we have had to learn to live with it. But real flu can make you really, really, ill, even if you are not immunocompromised