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Why do people think parents who pay for private education are enormously wealthy?

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SheineOn · 06/06/2024 13:32

Is this just the stereotype?

I went to a school that cost 18k a year (15 years ago). It’s now 24k a year.

There were wealthy people there. But also many ‘normal’ people. At least 40% fell into that category. People who lived on estates, drove modest cars, skipped holidays and ate cheaply.

They made a choice to spend their money on private education. For context, two of my closest friends have dc in private. They live off 450 a month after paying fees. They are not high earners.

Not everyone has endless wealth. Some are just happy to make the sacrifice. I find it strange people don’t seem to get that and makes me wonder how lacking in knowledge you must be to have that view of the private sector.

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DanielGault · 06/06/2024 20:22

Didimum · 06/06/2024 20:21

What’s your household income, OP?

I'd be more interested in the household IQ tbh....

uniq · 06/06/2024 20:23

1 What is your household income OP?

2 Where did your deposit for your house come from?

Idontgiveashit · 06/06/2024 20:24

🥱🥱🥱😴😴😴

SheineOn · 06/06/2024 20:24

uniq · 06/06/2024 20:23

1 What is your household income OP?

2 Where did your deposit for your house come from?

@uniq we saved for our deposit. My parents paid the legal fees. Our household income is 75k

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Pollipops1 · 06/06/2024 20:24

You have no idea of the ways people live to ensure their dc go to these schools. So, as I said in my OP, most families paying fees are not wealthy. It obviously makes you feel better to label them as such.

Well what data do you have?

““The data shows it’s overwhelmingly parents in the top 10 per cent earning bracket who send their kids to private schools.”

And many have family wealth.

CuriousD · 06/06/2024 20:25

ineedsun · 06/06/2024 20:22

Well it seems that one of the things that a private education doesn’t teach you is class.

So true.

One can grow up on the worst council estate and still carry yourself with dignity through life.

sandorschicken · 06/06/2024 20:25

Didimum
What’s your household income, OP?

I'd be more interested in the household IQ tbh....

@DanielGault

🤣🤣 It's a blessing really that OP would rather other people educate and do extra curricular activities with her child as opposed to her doing them herself. Child will fair better.

Pollipops1 · 06/06/2024 20:25

@SheineOn How much was your childcare for the first 5 years?

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 06/06/2024 20:25

SheineOn · 06/06/2024 13:46

@Singlemumtoadog i thought it was 37k. Agree it’s impossible if you earn less than the actual fees.

You are so unbelievably out of touch.

SheineOn · 06/06/2024 20:26

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 06/06/2024 20:25

You are so unbelievably out of touch.

@PeonyAndBlushSuede but we’ve established it’s 34k? So I was 3k out.

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Pollipops1 · 06/06/2024 20:26

Our household income is 75k @SheineOn Was it the same for the last 5 years?

uniq · 06/06/2024 20:27

3 k is nothing to OP

Didimum · 06/06/2024 20:27

SheineOn · 06/06/2024 20:24

@uniq we saved for our deposit. My parents paid the legal fees. Our household income is 75k

This is double the median UK household income and top 10%.

Kinshipug · 06/06/2024 20:27

@SheineOn how old are you?

category12 · 06/06/2024 20:28

SheineOn · 06/06/2024 20:24

@uniq we saved for our deposit. My parents paid the legal fees. Our household income is 75k

😂😂How you must struggle by.

uniq · 06/06/2024 20:28

SheineOn

Do you actually shop in Shein?

DanielGault · 06/06/2024 20:28

SheineOn · 06/06/2024 20:20

@DanielGault why don’t you visit a few and you’ll understand why people choose it. I mean that genuinely, unless you’ve been to some you won’t appreciate the difference.

Get off your arse and bring your own lunch. That's not difficult. And great prep for work life. The rest of it is half teaching and half effort. And a huge dollop of parental effort and not just expecting it to be 'taken care of' by throwing money at the problem. You have to put the work in here. Teachers have way too many kids to take care of. It's your job.

Sushilover14 · 06/06/2024 20:28

Some will be loaded. Some not but value their kids future to the extent where they will cut back on other stuff. Not everyone who has kids thinks they have a part to play in what their life chances will be into the future.

nearlylovemyusername · 06/06/2024 20:29

Teacher18 · 06/06/2024 20:17

This thread is seriously going round in circles. The OP has not yet told us what she means by wealthy so the whole thing is a bit pointless. (I mean it’s probably pointless even if there is an agreed definition)

Average cost of living is about £30k for a family of 3 so add the extra £24k you’re looking at needing a gross of at least £60k just to cover PE and living expenses. That puts that family in the top 20% ish. figures are rough but not far off. So if you can afford PE fees and nothing else you are still in the top 20-30% of households. I think that that should fall into the definition of ‘wealthy’ but you can define it. If you want to add holidays, cars etc etc then you’re probably more in the £100k plus bracket which is top 5% so again should fall into ‘wealthy’. I know I haven’t taken into account double incomes, averages pushed up by the top percentile but I also have worked figures on one child so it sort of evens out.

Ergo if you can afford PE you are wealthy - unless you define wealthy as only being in the top 1%. Should you be negatively judged for it? No. But appreciative of the privilege of choice.

This is so wrong!
Two parents earning £40k pa each and paying 5% into pension will bring home net £61.5k total. This does cover your average £30k pa cost of living + £24k PS + a bit extra.
UK average salary in 2023 was £35.5k pa - is this your top 20% ?

Pollipops1 · 06/06/2024 20:30

we saved for our deposit

whilst renting?

6pence · 06/06/2024 20:31

SheineOn · 06/06/2024 20:08

@mileenderr no? 150k can’t even buy a house so no I don’t consider that wealth. I guess wealthy would be no mortgage and upwards of 200k savings as well, with ongoing high income

😂

so, so out of touch! To be able to save £150k, even with your sacrifices, is incredibly privileged. How much did you pay for your house op? How much deposit did you have and where did it come from? How much do you earn!

I assume bil is a single parent then? I suspect not.
And most people don’t have a sizeable deposit to allow them to have a small mortgage payment. In fact, many people struggle to save for a deposit at all.

NotARealWookiie · 06/06/2024 20:31

You’re going to get slated but also, that’s the cost of full time nursery where I live.

SheineOn · 06/06/2024 20:33

DanielGault · 06/06/2024 20:28

Get off your arse and bring your own lunch. That's not difficult. And great prep for work life. The rest of it is half teaching and half effort. And a huge dollop of parental effort and not just expecting it to be 'taken care of' by throwing money at the problem. You have to put the work in here. Teachers have way too many kids to take care of. It's your job.

@DanielGault again, missing the point. You don’t have to agree that private education is better. But perhaps actually know your stuff before taking part in the discussion.

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Pollipops1 · 06/06/2024 20:33

Where does the 150k of saving come from? I thought it was 1.5k a month for 5 yrs?

6pence · 06/06/2024 20:33

And anyway how many people only have one child?

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