to suggest that every single parent with a child at private school apply for a state school place asap?

[sarjd]

let's see how that works.

You sound thick as shit.

Here we have an excellent example of another 'me first' tax dodging member of society. Well done, should we applaud your morals now too as you say you will "screw the state for every penny" In childlike revenge? Is this what you teach your kids? If something doesn't go your way make sure you get revenge at all costs? It's VAT which the private schools have thus far used a loophole to dodge. Instead of blaming the state perhaps you should see if your private school will give you a discount for your no doubt incredibly gifted offspring? No? Well maybe that's because they are a business and it wouldn't make good business sense for them? Business first, education second.

Boring subject. Go with the flow and take the hit in the state sector if the schooling system is oversubscribed by private school parents who have been pushed out by the increased costs

No point demanding Vat on private schools. There will be consequences

Do it. IIRC there are more empty places than there are privately educated children.

There will likely be others shifting stuff around, no one wants to be the tax policy GE fodder

It’s ok when others are

Ugh OP, PLEASE stop it. Pay the VAT or don’t, but stop bloody going on about it.

I have a kid in private. I think this particular policy is unfair. I also recognise that people are skint and tired and angry and they want the sort of change that this policy symbolises. So do I.

We entered into a business agreement for our kids’ education and as a result we’re at risk of the terms and conditions changing. Someone always loses out and it’s very rarely those of us with the means to even think of privately educating our children. We need to suck it up and deal with the consequences, however difficult.

Lots of people in the UK are really suffering. This sort of post just adds to the general (and largely unfair I think) perception that every single person who sends their child to a private school is a self-serving, social climbing élitest who couldn’t give a shit so long as they’re alright.

Wow. Just wow. I’ve never been more put off sending my kids to private school if these are the types of entitled parents whose children they’d be mixing with!

Well, how it works out is, if there’s a place available you’ll get it. And if there isn’t a place available, you won’t get it. Quite straightforward really.

This. Not sure why the OP would think this is some kind of gotcha which would scupper the VAT plans or teach a lesson to state school parents who are fed up with hearing them complain about it!

If you want to move to state school then that's fine. There's a whole allocation process for applying with clear criteria and an appeals process. It's available to everyone and you have every right to access a state school place. Not quite sure why you think it's some kind of gotcha. They are used to handling massive numbers of applications and appeals.

I don’t think there has been this many school threads since Covid! At least as a teacher I’m not being blamed - guess there’s always time though!

That untrue.

The council have a legal obligation to educate your child, so class spaces will have to be expanded.

All if our locals schools are already oversubscribed so I don’t recognise a million spaces!!! Such lies!

There will be spaces within the LA. They might not be close, but you'd get a place.

The kid already has a school place.

They don't have to offer a place at a local school if there isn't a space available. They will offer a place at a school that isn't local.

It’s going to be utter SHIT SHOW and parents are rightly going to be up in arms, and teachers walking out en masse and only then will the dimwits listen!!

I hear you op. It’s worth doing now - not worth waiting until July, do it now and for next year and onwards.

Well, we would welcome the pupils with open arms! We have falling rolls here and if we can fill classes, that brings money and then we won’t have to make a teacher redundant. It would be fabulous news for us!

You would be offered a place tomorrow and then would obviously have to accept or decline it within 10 days. I don’t know your notice period is for the private school though, @sarjd ? When would you have to pay school fees up until?

What teachers will be walking out en masse? Why?

There is a limit! We would have to drive fifty miles out of county, so yes our council WILL have to increase class sizes and whole schools are closing already. So this is already happening.

This is a huge problem

It is quite interesting though - I bet a lot of the would be private school parents or ex private school parents won’t move to the state sector and be grateful and take what is on offer (and supplement where required like the rest of us). They will be emailing and demanding etc and driving more teachers out! If anything they will be taking away from more disadvantaged students won’t they? Demanding why their DC is not in top set? If they expect and are used to a higher level of “service” how is this actually going to work in practice?

What makes you think teachers will leave because they get some former private school students to fill the empty places at their less than desirable schools?

Honestly, looking back at your previous posts it sounds like you have a shit life.

Every post is dripping with misery.

But we don’t HAVE empty spaces.

But in my LA, where 16 schools have closed due to low pupil numbers, there are plenty of teachers who could have kept their jobs.

In my LA, where about two thirds of schools were under PAN at reception last year, there are plenty of classes, with a teacher already in place, but with space within the class for pupils. Classes of 20 (10 spaces), classes of 26 (4 more spaces) etc.

No idea. Because of all the CHAOS at the council?

The teachers will be under severe pressure.