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to suggest that every single parent with a child at private school apply for a state school place asap?

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sarjd · 05/06/2024 15:12

let's see how that works.

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WhileIBreathIHope · 05/06/2024 18:47

A private primary school in a Scottish city I used to live in had to suddenly shut it doors, I can’t remember if it was due to whistleblowing or a poor inspection report or some sort of allegations which turned out to be true. Anyway. A friend of mine (ex head teacher) was pulled from her senior position in the council to manage the situation. Within two weeks she had reopened a mothballed school, staffed it and arranged a bus service to bus the ex private pupils in from all across the city to their ‘new’ state school.

I'm not the greatest fan of the state education system, but something would be done if all the private school kids had to be placed in the state system. This situation above looked bleak and the parents were not happy about their kids being shipped off to an old school in the back end of the city every day, but they could still go to work and their children had a teacher in front of them.

The rhetoric that private school parents are somehow doing the rest of us a favour by keeping their kids out of the state system is a real stretch. The system would adapt. The state kids would be much as they are now. The painful truth for the private parents is that it is their children’s experience that would suffer.

WhyIOughtTo · 05/06/2024 18:48

But we don’t HAVE empty spaces.
You might not have any empty spaces but plenty of schools do.

DarkForces · 05/06/2024 18:49

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:45

There is a limit! We would have to drive fifty miles out of county, so yes our council WILL have to increase class sizes and whole schools are closing already. So this is already happening.

This is a huge problem

Do you mean bulge classes? Again, this is common in our area where we have a temporary boom. The schools work in clusters an work out how best to handle it and the council sorts the funding. I'm not sure why you think the state is unable to handle large scale education

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:49

WhyIOughtTo · 05/06/2024 18:48

But we don’t HAVE empty spaces.
You might not have any empty spaces but plenty of schools do.

Not in this county pal

noblegiraffe · 05/06/2024 18:49

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:47

The teachers will be under severe pressure.

I won't.

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:50

noblegiraffe · 05/06/2024 18:49

I won't.

No one cares about you.

QualityDog · 05/06/2024 18:51

Not in this county pal

You are fucked then.

Plenty where I am.

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 05/06/2024 18:51

I think that's a great idea! Inundate the system and see how they cope......Idiots!

Tiredanddistracted · 05/06/2024 18:51

Please do. As a teacher in a state school, one of the benefits of this policy is that more parents will put their kids in their local schools, advocate for their children and put the pressure on the government to improve school funding.

Personally speaking I'd be delighted with an influx of private school students as the current tiered system is in danger of creating sink schools.

Dryplate · 05/06/2024 18:51

18% of schools are currently at or over capacity. That's a lot of schools with places.

noblegiraffe · 05/06/2024 18:52

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:50

No one cares about you.

I'm a teacher. You're crowing about how I'll be under severe pressure and walking out en masse with my colleagues.

So apparently you do care.

Except I'm pretty sure your plan will achieve fuck all pressure on me.

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:52

Tiredanddistracted · 05/06/2024 18:51

Please do. As a teacher in a state school, one of the benefits of this policy is that more parents will put their kids in their local schools, advocate for their children and put the pressure on the government to improve school funding.

Personally speaking I'd be delighted with an influx of private school students as the current tiered system is in danger of creating sink schools.

What is a sink school?

HandaFae · 05/06/2024 18:52

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:45

There is a limit! We would have to drive fifty miles out of county, so yes our council WILL have to increase class sizes and whole schools are closing already. So this is already happening.

This is a huge problem

Which county has no school places?

Has the neighbouring county? Do pupils already travel for school across LA boundaries?

Locally, although we have loads of spare school places, we also have pupils from neighbouring authorities, usually those who choose for their children to go to school close to their workplace, taking up school places.

If the LA didn't have any school places, those travelling across LA boundaries would not be admitted, freeing up school places.

I wish we were in that position. 16 schools have closed in my LA in the last five and a half years, due to low pupil numbers and viability.

Idontgiveashit · 05/06/2024 18:53

Anyone else on here feeling very relieved their kid doesn't go to private school? Imagine having to come into regular contact with some of the people posting on here. Or your kid ending up like them.

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:53

noblegiraffe · 05/06/2024 18:52

I'm a teacher. You're crowing about how I'll be under severe pressure and walking out en masse with my colleagues.

So apparently you do care.

Except I'm pretty sure your plan will achieve fuck all pressure on me.

Its going to a bloodbath

noblegiraffe · 05/06/2024 18:54

yes our council WILL have to increase class sizes

No, they might add bulge classes and that would mean that class sizes would decrease.

Dryplate · 05/06/2024 18:54

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:49

Not in this county pal

Which county? You've been asked before, why won't you answer?

Only 18% of schools are at or over capacity. If your LA really can't find a place for any additional child, they must be placing them in a neighbouring one. So that's what they'll do.

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:55

noblegiraffe · 05/06/2024 18:54

yes our council WILL have to increase class sizes

No, they might add bulge classes and that would mean that class sizes would decrease.

How many bulges will be there be for a school of a thousand closing..

TheaBrandt · 05/06/2024 18:55

Absolutely Idont! Appears there are some frankly deranged parents at those schools. Who would want to actually pay to have those loons in your children’s lives?!

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:55

Dryplate · 05/06/2024 18:54

Which county? You've been asked before, why won't you answer?

Only 18% of schools are at or over capacity. If your LA really can't find a place for any additional child, they must be placing them in a neighbouring one. So that's what they'll do.

How about 900 spaces or more?

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:55

At primary level

Shinyandnew1 · 05/06/2024 18:56

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:49

Not in this county pal

Which county is that, @Summerdays24 ?

Dryplate · 05/06/2024 18:56

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:55

How about 900 spaces or more?

Well there are one million unfilled places nationally, so yes they'd find 900 if they had to.

Itllfalloff · 05/06/2024 18:57

Idontgiveashit · 05/06/2024 18:53

Anyone else on here feeling very relieved their kid doesn't go to private school? Imagine having to come into regular contact with some of the people posting on here. Or your kid ending up like them.

Friend has sent her kid private - because she’s loaded mainly, though kid also dyslexic and she thought they would help more - and reports back that the parents are ‘all fucking awful’ and/or ‘twats’ !
This was in response to us asking if she was going to bugger off to pool parties and polo events now that they’d gone ‘posh’ for secondary…

And if some of these threads are anything to go by…

Summerdays24 · 05/06/2024 18:57

Dryplate · 05/06/2024 18:56

Well there are one million unfilled places nationally, so yes they'd find 900 if they had to.

But you can’t send 5 years olds NATIONWIDE can you!!

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