to suggest that every single parent with a child at private school apply for a state school place asap?

[sarjd]

let's see how that works.

This thread is a bit confusing to follow.

Half the people in favour of Labour's policy want private schools to close down, while the other half feel very strongly parents with kids in private school must keep them there and 'suck it up'

I don’t really know what point you’re making OP. You can apply and you’ll get allocated an undersubscribed (ie likely to be shit) school. Places have already been allocated for this year. I think the number of parents pulling kids out of private for state will be small. All the good schools are already full so unless it’s year 6 moving to year 7 it won’t make a difference how close to the school people can afford to move - they won’t be kicking out the kids who already have places so you’ll get what’s left over.

Plenty of school spaces in these parts.
Only thing to worry about is no room for all the big-dick Range rovers.

It's 20% not 200%

If people cant afford a minor uptick then they probably couldn't really afford it ever

Laughing like some sort of demented evil villain.

Not if they're electively homeschooled, they don't. Oh, and your private school is obliged to notify the LA of the details of any child on their roll (and any who leave). So they know where they are already.

Bit like your mortgage eh? And your gas and electricity. And that Sainsburys shop! Look at the fuss over Cost of Living and that was nowhere near a 20% increase. I guess the whole country is just a mass of people living on the edge....

This isn’t just the reason that people can’t afford fees though - cost of living, Brexit, poor wages, high mortgage costs, high energy bills.
If these weren’t an issue schools would be absorbing these costs much easier and parents would be able to afford them more.

Theres plenty of school places where I live, you just won’t want them. Lots of parents when they see what is available will find the money, which I suspect why a lot of them are in PE in the first place.

The appeals process is largely bullshit. I would not rely on that.
Its just 3 random people (who have no understanding of sen) or the local schools.
We lost our appeal and so dd missed the transition days she needed. Eventually got a place by sept.

However i would say unfortunately that even the oversuscribed school is pretty rubbish
They dont marl any homework or if they did no marks are fed back.
Suck up the 20% it will be worth it.
The behaviour is a serious issue too, kids sent out of almost every class......

Please can people stop quoting Finland as some bastion of educational Mecca. Their PISA results are down and they are worried about it https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/24581-finland-s-pisa-results-continue-to-decline-sparking-concern.html

Many US academics scratching their heads… a lot of the educational models the left have been selling simply do not work. Things are changing so fast now, with tech.

Imagine my surprise at the likes of you & your ilk manipulating the system at the expense of others. I really had hoped you were a troll but as someone has pointed out, you're actually real.

How utterly depressing

Much more urgent than the private school question in this country right now is University Education. The FT just ran a piece and our scores are down, international students are no longer coming, we are going to be screwed. The Labour Party will have to sort that one out first! It will have to take priority over private schools or they are essentially negligent.

,,@GogoGobo

Private school fees are a luxury. Not a necessity.

You can't compare an essential bill like food or energy to private school fees.

Comparing this to the miner's strike is so deranged that I actually want this policy go ahead just so I can see what madness ensues.

Is there a German word for this? Can someone's privately educated child tell me?

Given they are two different systems, you would hope the government could do both.

But yes the university system is something that needs a lot of attention.

Those twats are paying for a state school place too so are entitled to apply for one just in case. It’ll be a good stress test for all the private school abolitionists.

It would only make a difference to "them" if you actually take the places. Otherwise the only thing you'll achieve is a whole load of stress for families on waiting lists, who will eventually get the place they wanted anyway. Nice.

Well of course the Toryagraph, there is an absolutely unbiased resource for you.. excellent research you've really gone outside your comfort zone there to dig out the most credible research good job haha.

As a HT I know that lots of schools are not full so it would not cause the problems you hope.

You have a lot more faith in the political landscape than I do if you think the shoulds are prioritised over the popular.

Oh I will be sucking it up and paying the extra 20% - by changing all our business arrangements so that we can legally pay as little tax as possible. We’ve always paid full whack as we felt it was morally the right thing to do…but no more! A bit of paperwork and we can save about 10k of tax a year. We will be paying the absolute minimum going forward..in fact, I will be decreasing my working hours and upping my pension pot to take me just under the threshold. 😃 I will screw the state for every last Penny I can!

The trouble is you need to be careful not to mislead those who genuinely might need a state school place. Because once the Council has offered you a place, their duty is discharged! I am assuming at least for one academic year.

I will screw the state for every last Penny I can!

Poor Penny.

Honestly nobody likes tax can sympathise had a horrific bill In January felt sick paying it. But your attitude is weird and frankly unhinged.