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To dislike it when men post on mumsnet?

406 replies

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 07:52

I find it annoying. Why can’t they use their own men’s websites? Of which there are many!

*Note I put a thread up like this last night. Then went to bed. When I woke up this morning, it had been deleted by MN. Not sure what went on there..

OP posts:
jannier · 02/06/2024 12:16

opilikg · 02/06/2024 08:22

The problem is it tends to attract a certain type of man, usually condescending, incessant need to explain things to us little ladies, or worse, perverts.

No not saying this applies to all the male posters, but to many of the "man here" posts.

At least they mostly stay clear of the feminism boards (when not trying to stoke the trans debate) Netmums used to have a resident man lurking that used to post on any feminism related threads to explain to them why misogyny doesn't exist Envy

I've always assumed that much like many of us have found Mumsnet they Google advice on...(Sleep/behaviour etc) .then get a list of sites and have a read add a thread etc. I certainly never searched for a site for women only man hating mothers. For a long time I stuck to childcare threads. It's only recently I've read others and realised lots of women hate men ....and I know there are a lot of arse holes (had my share) but I hope we're doing our bit as mothers to change the future. Speaking out not putting up with it etc.

Mrsredlipstick · 02/06/2024 12:28

I just had a look on the sex board (never have before in twenty plus years). Started with nappy cream and the mummy mafia, now at adult children back home.

First thread, 90% male responders. Female poster. I don't think I'd ask a question there.

MumblesParty · 02/06/2024 12:29

Howbizarre22 · 02/06/2024 11:36

No because a lotnjj ohf the issues discussed are not parent related ie about relationships. I see it as a safe space for women.

@Howbizarre22 but you said it’s “by mums for mums”.

Howbizarre22 · 02/06/2024 12:34

MumblesParty · 02/06/2024 12:29

@Howbizarre22 but you said it’s “by mums for mums”.

Yes it is. But I don’t object to childless women using it for the reasons I described.

MakeTheRumourTrue · 02/06/2024 12:35

Mrsredlipstick · 02/06/2024 12:28

I just had a look on the sex board (never have before in twenty plus years). Started with nappy cream and the mummy mafia, now at adult children back home.

First thread, 90% male responders. Female poster. I don't think I'd ask a question there.

For years mumsnet refused to have a sex board, as they said they thought it would attract trolls and pervs. They weren’t wrong.

Mrsredlipstick · 02/06/2024 12:43

@MakeTheRumourTrue

Facinanting that the thread about the size of penises was answered by women.

The one about a 'porn type' sex act by men and within a minute so there are people waiting to pounce.
First and last time on there for me. 😁

anothernamitynamenamechange · 02/06/2024 12:46

swayingpalmtree · 02/06/2024 08:16

Yeah, this. No issue with men posting but when they make a point of announcing it and mansplaining their opinion as if it they speak for the entire male population it makes me think they are a complete dickhead.

Also women posting "I asked my husband and he says..." fine if its e.g. pluming/history question and he's a plumber/historian. Or if its about some specific male issue. Completely random most of the time. Often implies the husbands opinion holds more weight purely based on him being The Husband.

anothernamitynamenamechange · 02/06/2024 12:49

Bobbotgegrinch · 02/06/2024 11:38

Hello, man here! 🤣

I'm probably exactly the sort of poster you hate OP, I spend most of my time on AIBU, relationships, and FWR. Mainly because they're the three topics most likely to show up in trending.

I don't tend to announce myself as a man, unless there's a reason for it. If I start talking about my own relationship I will, because otherwise people assume I'm a lesbian when I mention DP is she. And I'll often comment on threads that feature things like Erectile dysfunction, and mention that I have the relevant equipment. I may also mention I'm male if someone is in an abusive relationship and one of her reasons for not leaving is that the next relationship would be just the same. I think it can be helpful on threads like that to point out that some men find that behaviour abhorrent, and that you don't have to put up with it because "that's just what men are like"

FWR is different, I lurk there a lot, and it's been hugely important to me in terms of evolving my views on womens rights and the trans issue. But I almost never post there unless someone's specifically asking how to get men to engage on an issue.

The one area I'd agree with you OP that men should be barred from is the sex topic. It's grim over there, and I stay well clear. How Mumsnet would achieve that though I don't know.

Noooooo, I think the sex topic is the unofficial containment zone for all the grimness. If you banned them from there they would spread out.

anothernamitynamenamechange · 02/06/2024 12:57

BlueJamSandwich · 02/06/2024 09:58

I'm not sure, men aren't a minority that face discrimination or exclusion though, I don't think it's analogous. That's why there are spaces for groups within organisations, political parties etc for those groups. You don't have a Labour Party friends of Men group for example.

Maybe a flag that could be added to threads that men aren't wanted on?

We have a really good Women's Centre locally, I wouldn't want access to it, but it's open to men to donate to.

Off topic but we have a fathers centre near us. Its a really good idea because it does fill a gap. But a lot of the outreach work they do seems to involve fixing children's bicycles and putting on a massive barbecue each year, So it doesn't really smash the gender stereotypes (not that that's its intention). I am good at bike repair but I wouldn't insist on being included since part of the point is a space for just dads to talk about dadly matters.

But you can exclude people in the real world. You can't online. What IS a problem is when men ask questions in AIBU/relationships but are then very dismissive "of course women would think that", "women always give men a hard time", "you don't understand men's perspective." Why post on MUMsnet and then complain the majority of answers are from a female perspective.

ilovesooty · 02/06/2024 12:58

tuvamoodyson · 02/06/2024 09:55

I hate this ridiculous ‘menz’ word!!

Agreed. I don't like terms such as dick panderer either.

I acknowledge of course that others might feel differently.

anothernamitynamenamechange · 02/06/2024 12:59

NonPlayerCharacter · 02/06/2024 10:30

I did once consider starting a thread where all the Barrys could go to dump literally anything they've read on here to do the "WHAT IF THE SEXES WERE REVERSED" thing. "My husband does nothing at home or with the kids even though we both work full time and I'm about to break WHAT IF THE SEXES WERE REVERSED", "My husband read my diary and threatened to show it to my family WHAT IF THE SEXES WERE REVERSED", "My boyfriend refuses to set the wedding date WHAT IF THE SEXES WERE REVERSED", "My husband is refusing to step up as I recover from labour from our fourth child WHAT IF THE SEXES WERE REVERSED", "I've got terrible endometriosis and bad flooding WHAT IF THE SEXES WERE REVERSED", you get the idea. Then they could congregate there to complain about imaginary scenarios and we could get on with the real ones.

But I suspect it wouldn't stay up long. Pity.

New mumsnet drinking game? You would get pissed pretty quickly.

Hotnamehere · 02/06/2024 13:00

I would prefer MN to be a female only space. There's a couple of persistent trolls on here who are definitely male. So they tend to colour my opinion of why men post on MN.

I tend to just skim over any obvious male comments,

MakeTheRumourTrue · 02/06/2024 13:02

anothernamitynamenamechange · 02/06/2024 12:49

Noooooo, I think the sex topic is the unofficial containment zone for all the grimness. If you banned them from there they would spread out.

The sex board seems to be what attracts a lot of the problem men here in the first place and then they move to other boards. Maybe we’d see a lot less of the sort of men we don’t want here without the sex board.

wizarddry · 02/06/2024 13:32

This isn't a "safe space for women" it's a public messaging forum

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 13:34

‘unofficial containment zone’ 😂😂😂

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BlueJamSandwich · 02/06/2024 13:56

anothernamitynamenamechange · 02/06/2024 12:57

Off topic but we have a fathers centre near us. Its a really good idea because it does fill a gap. But a lot of the outreach work they do seems to involve fixing children's bicycles and putting on a massive barbecue each year, So it doesn't really smash the gender stereotypes (not that that's its intention). I am good at bike repair but I wouldn't insist on being included since part of the point is a space for just dads to talk about dadly matters.

But you can exclude people in the real world. You can't online. What IS a problem is when men ask questions in AIBU/relationships but are then very dismissive "of course women would think that", "women always give men a hard time", "you don't understand men's perspective." Why post on MUMsnet and then complain the majority of answers are from a female perspective.

A father's centre sounds good. As for the rest of your post, that makes perfect sense to me.

HateWorkingFulltime · 02/06/2024 14:03

What a nasty thread. Imagine wanting to exclude a whole group of people just because you want to be amongst your own kind.

Women actually need safe spaces from men both physically and IMO virtually.

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 14:07

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anothernamitynamenamechange · 02/06/2024 14:26

HateWorkingFulltime · 02/06/2024 14:03

What a nasty thread. Imagine wanting to exclude a whole group of people just because you want to be amongst your own kind.

Women actually need safe spaces from men both physically and IMO virtually.

Virtually isn't possible though unless you do what Sal Grover did and include face verification. You wouldn't have men announcing themselves but you would have men just ticking the "are you a woman" check box. So you would filter out the self policers who are basically fine anyway and just have the trouble causers.
I don't have a car but their is nothing to stop me signing up on Pistonheads and posting there. What would be odd is if I then started moaning on the forums about how everyone there that drives cars is clearly biased and are pro-petrol radicals. And then if I got push back used this as evidence that everyone on piston heads hates cyclists like me :( :( :(

Also I don't think "safety" online from opinions (even cruel/stupid ones) is the same thing as physical safety offline.

OriginalFloorboards · 02/06/2024 14:27

That’s a bit worrying @Mrsredlipstick no-one should have to be scared to post because of weirdos doing that. Whoever they are, whatever their sex. Hope they were banned.

anothernamitynamenamechange · 02/06/2024 14:27

I always just assume everyone that disagrees with me is a Russian Bot anyway. Saves time.

wizarddry · 02/06/2024 14:31

HateWorkingFulltime · 02/06/2024 14:03

What a nasty thread. Imagine wanting to exclude a whole group of people just because you want to be amongst your own kind.

Women actually need safe spaces from men both physically and IMO virtually.

It can't be policed though. There's no way of determining who is a man and who isn't.

Chanelbasketballandchain · 02/06/2024 14:40

wizarddry · 02/06/2024 13:32

This isn't a "safe space for women" it's a public messaging forum

thank you!

It's frightening how many people see internet forum or facebook groups as "safe space".

Goldiedoodling · 02/06/2024 14:42

Doesnt bothar me, it’s nice to hear how blokes think sometimes, like straight from the horses mouth.

MakeTheRumourTrue · 02/06/2024 14:46

Goldiedoodling · 02/06/2024 14:42

Doesnt bothar me, it’s nice to hear how blokes think sometimes, like straight from the horses mouth.

Tbf, there are quite a lot of places on the internet to hear what men think. 😅Although it wouldn’t be possible to make mumsnet a place for only women, it is a place for women to be heard, as Justine herself has said.