To dislike it when men post on mumsnet?

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I find it annoying. Why can’t they use their own men’s websites? Of which there are many!

*Note I put a thread up like this last night. Then went to bed. When I woke up this morning, it had been deleted by MN. Not sure what went on there..

Yes. Like the sort of men who want to use women’s toilets, even though they know it makes many women uncomfortable. A certain type of man alright.

Please do! 🤓😂

There's a Scotsnet here, so where's the difference?

Do you feel aggrieved when women without children post on MUMSnet?
Or post about topics that are completely unrelated to being a MUM?

The forum has evolved

Lol. Yeah. Well done for trying. But not good enough. I was clearly responding to a poster being critical of advice given by women, so I'm obviously not going to counter that by refencing advice given by men, as that would be irrelevant, wouldn't it? The vast majority of people providing support services to vulnerable abused women are...guess who? I'm sure there are men out there doing a sterling job in some fields. But I'm not talking about them at the moment. You are kind of proving my point about the obsession of some on here for making everything about men though. Why do you feel that need?

Ok maybe I shouldn't have wound you up with saying that misandry is as rife as misogyny but I don't understand why it matters if men post on here.

It's not a supportive place for women. Not all women think the same and are as supportive as you'd think. Some women on here can be very nasty and bitchy, so it's not a supportive place at all at times.

Everybody should be able to contribute.

Well 20 years ago when I joined it was just mums on Mumsnet but I'm thinking inclusivity - around males in general or trans male parents, became more of a factor that it used to be, hence the modernisation of the tagline "Mumsnet - by Parents for Parents".

It depends what the topic is. Usually you wouldn't know it was a man posting unless they announce it, which I dislike. I also hate when a man responds to a woman on the sex board, on a topic that he would have no experience or knowlege of. For example, a woman asking about difficulty orgasming and then a man comes on and says " try this vibrator, this sex position,my wife likes this etc.." Just butt out, you might know what your wife likes, but you don't have firsthand experience and this isn't your opportunity to get yourself all worked up.

I still don't know why you'd expect a parenting site to be a female only space for a start?

I have no interest in women-only sites personally. I can't think of any subject where a man wouldn't be able to bring an opinion or a advice just because he happens to be male. Trolls can be just as nasty if they are female, and are equally unwanted.
I mean, even my obstetrician happened to be male and I have no complaint!

If you want a female-only site, I am sure there are some, or you can create your own. Having an issue about an existing site where male have a place is odd.

the only ones making "everything about men" on here are.. people like you.

The rest of us who have no issue about male or female posters are not actually bothered, they are just replying to you - or to the OP.

@Howbizarre22 do you also object to childless women posting here?

I would prefer it to be women only too. But I realise that's impossible.

Men are parents too

Well said

I can’t stand the men that hang around the sex board. Often they post on the relationships board too but only on threads talking about sex. Something very off about a man trawling through threads on here to talk about sex, often sharing unnecessary details about their sexual interests. When they resurrect a thread from years ago to do it...🤮

Then there are the ones that present themselves as ‘Mr Pretty Much Perfect’, who apparently come here for advice on their relationship because their wife/partner isn’t interested in them. The language used, the style of writing, again, something often feels off. Sometimes I think it’s for attention from women, other times their mask slips and they’re just a misogynistic man looking to tell women how wrong they are.

Then there’s the obvious MRA types that post on every thread possible about women being the problem in society, how they’re just as violent as men etc. At every possible turn, they post about mumsnets double standards and poor men. Some admit they’re men, some pose as women.

But, I’ve come across some men that post that seem fine and I have no issue with those men.

😂😂

Check IDs... 🤣🤣🤣

At every possible turn, they post about mumsnets double standards and poor men. Some admit they’re men, some pose as women."

But there ARE double standards on Mumsnet. And they're pretty rife. I comment on them, and I'm very much female and a mother of daughters.
I do however, find a lack of logic very difficult to scroll past, even though I invariably get acccused of NAMALTing when it involves me questioning an illogical assumption about a male.

Not all men are evil and not all women are saintly.

No because a lotnjj ohf the issues discussed are not parent related ie about relationships. I see it as a safe space for women.

Hello, man here! 🤣

I'm probably exactly the sort of poster you hate OP, I spend most of my time on AIBU, relationships, and FWR. Mainly because they're the three topics most likely to show up in trending.

I don't tend to announce myself as a man, unless there's a reason for it. If I start talking about my own relationship I will, because otherwise people assume I'm a lesbian when I mention DP is she. And I'll often comment on threads that feature things like Erectile dysfunction, and mention that I have the relevant equipment. I may also mention I'm male if someone is in an abusive relationship and one of her reasons for not leaving is that the next relationship would be just the same. I think it can be helpful on threads like that to point out that some men find that behaviour abhorrent, and that you don't have to put up with it because "that's just what men are like"

FWR is different, I lurk there a lot, and it's been hugely important to me in terms of evolving my views on womens rights and the trans issue. But I almost never post there unless someone's specifically asking how to get men to engage on an issue.

The one area I'd agree with you OP that men should be barred from is the sex topic. It's grim over there, and I stay well clear. How Mumsnet would achieve that though I don't know.

But when the vast majority of their posts about women being bad, stories of men being wronged by women and double standards etc, you know why they’re here. They have an agenda.

They start "dad here" so later on they don't get called out, and to make it clear they understand their experience is possibly different posts on here are very quick to claim men are different, don't understand, closet pedophiles, abusive etc they probably feel being open is less threatening. Maybe you should start a site for women only then it's open to all identifying as a woman?

And I didn’t say all men are evil and all women are saintly, did I?

This thread is about men posting on mumsnet and I picked out the sort of men that I find problematic here. I also said some men here are fine and no issue at all. Also some posters may be men and I’d have no idea. But I can talk about the problematic ones without it saying all men are a problem.

@ASighMadeOfStone ,

Let me try one more time for you!

I am not a hypocrite as I think this site is for ANYONE who wants to post, as long as they obey the site rules.

What I object to is NOT non parents posting (how you got that from any of my posts, I have no idea. It is a manifestation of your bias, not based on any objective parsing of my words) but non parents objecting to half of all parents posting (yes, that will be us men) on a parenting site. To me, this it total hypocrisy.

At a guess I’d says mumsnet is still 90% female posters. Of course, no one really knows.

I don't get it you don't like them saying from the start I'm a man but then any post that isn't agreeing must almost certainly be a man doesn't that mean it's better for them to say to start with then if you don't want to know what they have to say you can just skip past?
I've never understood the point of a thread that doesn't want all opinions and debate that's how we develop as people maybe posts should start I only want affirmation answers?