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To tell colleague people are chatting behind her back

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MeowMail · 01/06/2024 03:52

I work in finance, I love my job but I think as an industry it can be extremely toxic, especially for women.
One of the younger women on our team is 23, if life is a lottery she had almost all the numbers. She is extremely beautiful (modelled her way through uni), tall, slim, natural tan and natural blonde hair. She is from a well off family, well educated, intelligent, talented, athletic and above all else a lovely kind person. Now I get it, it's hard not to be jealous of her at times as on the surface she has it all.
We are all also aware though that she is often subjected to male clients being flirtatious or even just sexually harassing her. If they bring enough money to the firm though there is little she can do. We also know she lost a parent as a child which I think single handedly scores out all the wins she has had in life.

Now tonight I went for drinks after work with some people, she works from home on Fridays so wasn't there. The conversation turned to being about her. And honestly the men were lovely about her but the women were like vultures, she's a nepo baby (this isn't really true at all, one of the seniors knows her dad and she did intern with us while doing her masters however - she applied the same way as everyone else and until the interview the applications are done blind (name/dob etc. removed). I sat in on her interview and she smashed it tbh.
She's a gold-digger (her new boyfriend makes more and is a bit older but nothing crazy), one of them said "I don't feel bad that the clients sexualise her, what else can you expect when you look like her" another said "I find her infuriating, I hate how easy her life is" (excuse me - she lost a parent as a child how is that easy!).
Several of the guys defended her saying she's lovely and hard working, but the women kept going find faults (her legs are too skinny, her instagram is icky, she's fake, she's this, she's that).
Now while this is bullying - 2 people from HR were there and part of it and the chief investment officer was there and said nothing.
So while I will report it, I know very little will come from it especially as it happened outside work.
However I'm thinking, this woman is talented, hardworking, smart etc. She could probably get a comparable job elsewhere if she wanted and maybe if I tell her how toxic and vile people are being it will encourage her to do so.
I did say to a few of them that I get it, it seems unfair for one person to be stunning, sporty, smart, talented, kind and hardworking and it feels like no one should get it all but she doesn't deserve the be bullied which is exactly what they were doing. They all just brushed me off and joked that when your gods favourite what does it matter what they say when she's not around.

Now I'm not sure what to do - do I tell her? Just report? I'm worried if I tell her it will be hurtful but equally I think she deserves to know so she can get out.

So AIBU for wanting to tell this colleague how horrible people are being?

OP posts:
Bananabreadandstrawberries · 01/06/2024 14:25

MeowMail · 01/06/2024 03:52

I work in finance, I love my job but I think as an industry it can be extremely toxic, especially for women.
One of the younger women on our team is 23, if life is a lottery she had almost all the numbers. She is extremely beautiful (modelled her way through uni), tall, slim, natural tan and natural blonde hair. She is from a well off family, well educated, intelligent, talented, athletic and above all else a lovely kind person. Now I get it, it's hard not to be jealous of her at times as on the surface she has it all.
We are all also aware though that she is often subjected to male clients being flirtatious or even just sexually harassing her. If they bring enough money to the firm though there is little she can do. We also know she lost a parent as a child which I think single handedly scores out all the wins she has had in life.

Now tonight I went for drinks after work with some people, she works from home on Fridays so wasn't there. The conversation turned to being about her. And honestly the men were lovely about her but the women were like vultures, she's a nepo baby (this isn't really true at all, one of the seniors knows her dad and she did intern with us while doing her masters however - she applied the same way as everyone else and until the interview the applications are done blind (name/dob etc. removed). I sat in on her interview and she smashed it tbh.
She's a gold-digger (her new boyfriend makes more and is a bit older but nothing crazy), one of them said "I don't feel bad that the clients sexualise her, what else can you expect when you look like her" another said "I find her infuriating, I hate how easy her life is" (excuse me - she lost a parent as a child how is that easy!).
Several of the guys defended her saying she's lovely and hard working, but the women kept going find faults (her legs are too skinny, her instagram is icky, she's fake, she's this, she's that).
Now while this is bullying - 2 people from HR were there and part of it and the chief investment officer was there and said nothing.
So while I will report it, I know very little will come from it especially as it happened outside work.
However I'm thinking, this woman is talented, hardworking, smart etc. She could probably get a comparable job elsewhere if she wanted and maybe if I tell her how toxic and vile people are being it will encourage her to do so.
I did say to a few of them that I get it, it seems unfair for one person to be stunning, sporty, smart, talented, kind and hardworking and it feels like no one should get it all but she doesn't deserve the be bullied which is exactly what they were doing. They all just brushed me off and joked that when your gods favourite what does it matter what they say when she's not around.

Now I'm not sure what to do - do I tell her? Just report? I'm worried if I tell her it will be hurtful but equally I think she deserves to know so she can get out.

So AIBU for wanting to tell this colleague how horrible people are being?

YABU - do NOT tell her that the other women are bitching about her and therefore she should move jobs! WTF.

Tell the other women that they are so jealous they are fluorescent green. Tell them their bitching doesn’t make them come across well and all the men who were being kind will see them as such.

Tell them that this smart, lovely, beautiful young lady is going far in life, and it won’t be long before they are all lining up to kiss her arse.

ClaustrophobicKipper · 01/06/2024 14:32

I agree with previous posters not to tell her or even get involved.

When someone bitches about another, the only person you truly learn something about is the bitcher. They're showing themselves up.

As long as it remains as insecure, pathetic women bitching about someone else and doesn't affect her directly, i don't see that there is much to be done.

As a previous poster said, bitches gonna bitch,sadly.

Katemax82 · 01/06/2024 17:05

When my daughters friend told her another girl had bad mouthed her it just made her really sad and I was annoyed this friend found it necessary to tell her

Josette77 · 01/06/2024 18:22

Clawedino · 01/06/2024 10:58

Not sure what your point is. Colleagues have said things in front of me about my DH (also my colleague). Some people are brutal (particularly women) and do not care who is around when they say things!

My point is, make it clear you're not ok with that. Don't sit and listen. Either leave or pull them up on it.

Lalog · 01/06/2024 18:33

How lucky for this young woman that she at least has all the lovely chivalrous men around her to protect her from the vicious jealous old women. They run the world you know, ugly old women. They call all the shots. If it weren't for calm virtuous men everything would descend into anarchic fighting.

MellersSmellers · 25/08/2024 15:06

NO don't tell her! You will just hurt her and damage her relationships at work.
Just stand up for her, call them out and try to close the conversation down if there is a next time.

BCBird · 25/08/2024 15:09

I wouldn't tell her, but would call them.out.

Goodadvice1980 · 25/08/2024 15:16

Sadly I have previously been the target of work colleagues like this. The comedian Chris Rock once said, “if women ruled the world there’d just be a whole bunch of countries not talking to each other”. Until women start genuinely supporting each other nothing will change.

OP your colleagues sound bitter and spiteful. I would distance myself from them in social situations.

Ontobetterthings · 25/08/2024 15:41

I wouldn't say anything. It's just going to upset her. Stay out of it. It's just causing trouble

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