Things you're supposed to give a shit about, but you don't.

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You know those little things in life that people like to morally police and make you feel guilty about but you just can't muster up the shit to give?

This is a confession thread. I'll start.

I don't give a shit that you supposedly shouldn't feed bread to ducks. I don't care. Don't eat it then. People have been feeding them bread for decades and now we're supposed to bring them organic bloody walnuts or something? Or some other crap they don't want that doesn't float?
They can have my slightly mouldy bread and be grateful.

Over to you.

@RaverQuavers

women have a right to use public toilets and feel safe whilst doing so. Why do you have so much internalised misogyny?

our non recyclable gets incinerated.

Some people smell, normal human but ALL dogs smell and smell like dogs.

Give me a duck over a dog!

Yeah they’re not very nice…
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2005/mar/08/highereducation.research

And if a woman feels unsafe with a 4 year old boy in the cubicle next door? Would you ban all males in female toilets regardless of age?

Where do we draw the line, which level of froth do we stop at?

I don’t feel safe using a toilet that’s empty, should there be a new law that means all public toilets need a person in there at all times?

I don't care about climate change.

I also don't care about exercising

@RaverQuavers

small children with their parents, fine. Otherwise no.

But you said all women deserve to feel safe when using the toilet did you not?

We see often on here posters saying they feel unsafe about any male in the toilet, including small children with their mum.

Do those posters not also deserve to feel safe?

Oh, this!!
I've never cried on any of their birthdays or first days of school etc. Every year I get further away from the days of sleep deprivation and nappies is a blessing!

Yeah, this. Whenever women want to talk about women's issues it's derailed by cries of 'but what about men?!' I once said men should set up domestic violence shelters for men, instead of expecting women to do it, and got called allsorts (by men, obviously.) We're expected to deal with their shit before dealing with our own. Similar with mental health issues.

they are grown ducks, they can make their own choices

This is peak Tory mumsnet

Gifts for teachers

Sending birthday or event cards to people I don’t arrange to see regularly

More modern Christmas trends such as elf on the shelf and Christmas eve boxes

Ironing sheets

Men. I love the men in my life, dad, husband, brother in laws etc but overall I really don’t give a shiny shit about how men are getting on. The many campaigns about men’s mental health and how we should tiptoe around them in case they suddenly up and leave one day to end it all.

More women attempt suicide than men. You don’t see any campaigns about how women should open up and share their feelings. Those women are the ones who have suffered at the hands of men, who are utterly drained from having to carry their whole family burden, whose PND isn’t taken seriously, who feel ashamed to admit they aren’t coping. Women are seen as the more emotional sex and the assumption seems to be that they just chat freely about their darkest thoughts around a coffee or at a girls brunch. It’s aa easy as that for women to talk about their feelings, isn’t it? They don’t need any extra special consideration. They don’t need to be encouraged to talk about abuse they might be suffering, because women just spill the beans at every opportunity.

On the whole I feel like there are a lot of grubby little men with grubby little fetishes, sex pests, controlling and coercive men who want to keep women down and controlled. So I don’t care if men find it hard to talk about how tough life is. Men can look after each other instead of expecting women to rescue them from themselves.

Oh, and, the royals!

Can we not stick to the point we are debating? Which is the presence of men in women's toilets? Can you perhaps explain why that specific thing is so useful and positive to society that women should be made to feel unsafe, without muddying the waters with other scenarios?

As long as you don't come onto the Christmas Threads to shout :
"Christmas Eve Boxes . When did this become A THING "
"December 1st Boxes ? What - more tat"?

I do Dec 1st Boxes for my adult DC and it's a part of our Tradition.

As you were

Other people’s wedding anniversaries

A lot of people who put their time in to this seem to act like slavery is done with and they’re correcting the past. I’m sure the millions of people around the world still trapped in slavery would rather the efforts went in to actions which will actually help them, today.

How many kids someone has. I have 1. Judge away. I won't be having anymore.

I can't be bothered with mn posters who obviously hate men. I always imagine the posters have put up with years of shit they shouldn't have put up with and rather than taking responsibility and actually dealing with it all they've ended up alone and bitter and totally hate all men. Different if its something like domestic abuse which wears you right down, im not talking about that situation but loads of women take shit from a man so they aren't alone/poorer, then when he fecks off and leaves them they go to mn to slate all men everywhere like they are all obviously bastards.
And when you point out NAMALT jesus they squash you down asap.

I don't care about transwomen.

People have lost their minds over these men who have a sexual paraphilia, they used to be called transvestites ya know and porn has addled their brains.

I don't give one shiney shite about these men, they can eff off.

Ducks hate frozen peas.

I don’t give a shit about writing in the school reading diary for either of my primary age kids. They read tons and tons. If I write down everything they read I’d be there all night. Bollocks off.

Visiting newborns. Why is everyone in a rush to do this when a baby pops out? I found the level of people visiting me when I had a baby very overwhelming and tiring. Some nights I’d have no sleep at all but there was always a text from someone wanting to come round “for a cuddle” aaaaaaaaargh.

classic, can’t answer so try and pivot back.

A minority of women feeling unsafe doesn’t trump trans women and trans men feeling unsafe.

Again, where does it stop when trying to make everyone feel safe within public policy. As I mentioned earlier we regularly see posts on here of women asking if they’re unreasonable for getting annoyed about a mum bringing her under 5 year old boy into female toilets or changing rooms. They’re told they’re BU but if you want them to feel safe then where does it end? Why do you get to decide the level of safety women are able to feel when using the toilet. And that line is trans women

This is also why it’s good to look outside of the MN echo chamber at times. The policies around men on delivery wards is a key example. So many on here froth about it, but overwhelmingly young women are ok with men on the wards and want their partners there. So much so NHS policies are changing to accommodate.

Our local hospital did this last year, had a no men policy after what turns out was 6 complaints in total (found out after a FOI request) and after polling patients 98% were in favour of having men on the wards. Yet if you based your view on just what you see on here you’d assume the opposite was true.

I agree. I can’t say I’m overly concerned about the statues per se, but the mobs (vandals?) rushing to pull them down seem to think they’ve achieved something worthwhile. I hate the term ‘virtue signalling’ but that’s all this is. Nothing of substance.