To push ds into claiming

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Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

Sure there should be qualifications in physiotherapy but universities should be for degrees in proper subjects. Like math, or biology, or history. Medicine obviously.

My friend’s son was like this, she told him to find a job and he was turning his nose up at working in Tesco. She said, if you don’t take it I will take ALL your benefits but if you do take it, I’ll only take some. He took the job and got the message. Giving him money is enabling him.

As a side note can he claim Universal Credit or indeed any benefits at the moment? Certainly when I graduated (which granted was in the days of income support) you couldn't claim as a student and we were technically students until the end of the academic year which is usually 31 August (can vary by institution) NOT when our exams finished. They had closed the loop holes that previous generations enjoyed of being able to 'sign on' each summer for the holidays. Seems strange that they identified that loop hole with legacy benefits and then reopened them with the replacement

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not, sorry!

Aw OP, sorry you’re getting a tough time! It was so lovely and generous of you to support your son financially through university.

Now that his course has ended it would be absolutely fair of you to let him know you can longer afford to support him - he is an adult and will need to figure out the next steps, whether he can quickly find a job or if he needs to claim whilst looking.

Sorry but to be honest you quite obviously have no idea of what physio involves. It most definitely does need degree level qualifications unless you want dangerous. Mistakes in your care . Physios don't just donwhat drs tell them, the assess, treat and manage conditions as independent practitioners.

He can claim the job seeker element of UC while looking for a job.
That’s what it is there for.
It’s not choosing to go on benefits instead of working.
£370/mo is barely enough for food, and utilities.

Physiotherapy is a medical profession! 😜

He doesn’t know if he’s passed? So that’s the problem, he might not have passed his degree. Has he really been concentrating that much on his studies if he might not even have passed? I think he’s not been telling you the truth op, it’s unusual to get tit he end of a degree and fail, there’s usually intervention before then and options earlier on.

Physiotherapy is an incredibly worthwhile course and essential to be taught to degree level. If you have studied it, or even considered it, then you know why it is. Podiatry is the same - clinical practice.

I agree that there’s too many degrees that probably shouldn’t be degrees, but physiotherapy is not one of them.

It’s not that unusual to not have your results yet. My DC graduates next week, got results yesterday and emailed them for a final transcript and proof of degree. Nothing yet. Many graduate programs and jobs require proof of your degree and classification before starting.

Well he's been living off his parents thus far, the concept of working the long student summer at least seems foreign to him and his mum!

There's at least 5 months between the end of one academic year and the next (usually May-October). That's almost half the year to be spending not working/studying.

By the way, no coincidence that the people who did best at university/academic study amongst mine/my siblings/friends peer groups were the ones with enough of a work ethic/family values to have supported themselves (even partly) through at least some of their lives up to the age of 21/22.

Those who hadn't, got a big shock when they entered the real world of work after leaving education.

There is no marking strike at my DC’s uni. Some unis have a marking strike rn, leaving many students in total ignorance as to whether they have passed.

Where in the UK are you?

I guarantee he could have a hospitality job before the end of the week in any area bar the Outer Hebrides!

I employed 6 students this week on a short term contract until they return to study end of September. All are paid well, with added tips, and have booked existing holiday/festival weekends off over the next 4 months, so it's not that they are "tied into" anything.

Yes but you don’t get to your final exams and not be sure you’ve passed unless you’re right on the border of failing. With coursework and previous marks you know roughly if you’re going to get a 2:1 or 2:2. Potential for failing means you’re going to get a very low degree even if you don’t fail, that’s not most students.

Also just seen your update, and jamimmi is spot on! Also consider looking for private and independent sector jobs at Health Jobs UK and The Chartered Society of Physiotherapy Job Board. In addition to whatever you advise him to do around applying for benefits, please urge him to start applying for these jobs now, not in August, as they fill up very quickly with the large cohort of incoming grads in his year group who have already started looking. He doesn't need to sort out his CV; most of these jobs require a tailored profile.

Additionally, if he's unsure whether or not he will pass, it's worth checking out the resit policy. His university will probably have summer resits, which will delay his completion date and hence also his council tax burden. I may be reading too much into this as it's just over text, but his general recalcitrance to follow the very bog standard career advice for physio does sort of suggest to me he thinks he has failed his exams. This is not the end of the world, and loads of people go on to pass their resits and get a job. But it's better to prepare now than put it off if that's the case.

This doesn't make sense?! He can find out whether he's passed or not whether he's at home or in his uni town.

He has a very blasé attitude to the whole thing, what if he hasn't passed and getting a job "in his field" may not be as easy as he imagines? Or will he then just repeat the year and kick the can down the road for another year?

I have a friend who is a (self-employed) physiotherapist and it's a very competitive industry. The last person he employed at his clinic impressed him with their work ethic and range of part time jobs throughout education (it's a career that requires you to be personable and good with people).

I wouldn't employ a 21 year old "man" who lived off his parents and would rather claim benefits from the state than get a summer gig in a bar/cafe/shop/call centre/warehouse.

With coursework and previous marks

Unless there is a marking strike that covers 40% or more of your grade for the year…..

I wouldn't employ a 21 year old "man" who lived off his parents and would rather claim benefits from the state than get a summer gig in a bar/cafe/shop/call centre/warehouse.

But claiming the jobseeker allowance via universal credit isn’t a case of rather claim benefits than work. It’s a benefit anyone is entitled to while they seek a job. It is for people who would rather work and are looking for work.

He's got no business applying for benefits. He needs to be walking round local bars/cafes/tourist attractions, signing up with temping agencies and getting himself a job doing anything.

Even once he's got results and started looking/applying for grad jobs, the interview process can take weeks/months. It won't look good on his application that he's sat on his arse for months either.

If he’s not living with you? Then I’m unsure why he needs to claim it

but why hasnt he had any work the past 3 years

You guys paid for everything whilst he was at uni?!?

how?£?)????

Having some taxpayer's money you mean. He needs to get a job but sounds like he is used to other people paying for him to loaf around.