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To push ds into claiming

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

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ToGinOrNotToGin · 31/05/2024 20:07

I left uni 4 year ago. I studied Paediatric Nursing
Nursing courses at the time required you to do university, alongside 37.5 hours unpaid placements in the hospitals (shifts, nights, days etc)
I had a part time job at McDonalds - due to their flexibility.
Some weeks would look like
Monday Placement 12hrs, uni work after
Tuesday Placement 12hrs, uni work after
Wednesday - full day uni, 6 hour shift at McDonalds
Thursday - Placement 12 hrs
Friday - Uni classes on the morning, McDonalds afternoon
Saturday - McDonalds, assignments
Sunday - McDonalds, assignments

I literately never stopped. But I needed money to fund my course as the loan was so low compared to accommodation costs.

When I finished I went full time at McDonalds until my NMC pin came through whilst also applying for full time nursing roles.
In the end I was told the job I was offered on Paediatric Intensive Care Unit was offered to me, over another candidate who got a 1st as well, because I worked at McDonalds. It was the only difference, on paper, between us. It showed resilience and time management skills.

What I am trying to say, without bashing you or your son, is a job now could be the difference between getting his dream job and not

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:07

Byronada · 31/05/2024 20:06

I was angry when I read this thread earlier. I've now just got home from a 10 hour shift and I'm exhausted. I'm 58 and I've worked for 42 years. I just want to weep at the idea you expect me to find your lazy son. You should be ashamed.

My son isn't lazy

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Byronada · 31/05/2024 20:08

My son isn't lazy

I disagree.

caringcarer · 31/05/2024 20:08

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:47

I know that's what I meant but people have started benefit bashing and critisizing

I don't think people are benefit bashing OP. As many have said be edits are for those genuinely looking to find a job to tide them over until they get one. Your son doesn't sound like he's looking very hard. If he signed up to a job agency and took what they offered him he could probably start on Monday. He won't get any benefits for 5 weeks so quicker to get a job than sign on anyway. To get benefits as a fit single person they expect you to apply for 3 jobs most days. Has he even applied for any jobs since May 24th? He's really had plenty of time.

KickHimInTheCrotch · 31/05/2024 20:09

We had a new starter at work this week who has just finished uni. She applied for the job months ago and negotiated a suitable start date after her exams. Its not a graduate job but responsible and reasonably well paid. She just had to think ahead a little bit. 30 years ago when I finished uni I got a job in a pub and picked up various shifts around holidays and festivals. It's not hard for someone with half a brain.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:09

He's signed up with a events agency I've already stated this.

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listsandbudgets · 31/05/2024 20:09

Of course he can find a job - it may just not be one he likes!

We have Ukrainian guests. When they came they were beyond exhausted and one had a bad chest infection. I told them to rest for the first 2 weeks before they even thought of looking for a job - which they did. On the Monday of the third week they went to the job centre, on the Tuesday they went round the shops and hotels asking for work and landed interviews for cleaning jobs at a local hotel and started on the Thursday... 2 years later they're still there - one now working on reception as her English has improved so much.

If they can do that using then your son can get off his bum and get a summer job while he waits for his results and applies for something more permanent.

jamimmi · 31/05/2024 20:10

I hate to say this but he's really behind on the job thing. DS due to.graduate this summer, fingers crossed. Started applying for graduate jobs last September, has one starting 1st October. He's back home and back at his summer bar job to fund his summer. Now paying us rent at his request. It's only 10% of his salary but we want him to save. Your ds needs to get applying for anything, but at 21 with no experience he may even struggle with bar work

showerjelly · 31/05/2024 20:11

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:09

He's signed up with a events agency I've already stated this.

Is that it?

No cv

One events agency?

CadyEastman · 31/05/2024 20:11

flamebrick · 31/05/2024 16:57

He'll need to get his finger out if he wants a graduate job for August — the vast majority of schemes will have started recruiting in October/November and will have already made most of their offers. He needs to jump on Gradcracker ASAP as time is not on his side. If he fancies a graduate job and misses the boat for August, it'll likely be another year before he'd start earning (or at best, a January start)

Thanks for that @flamebrick. Have bookmarked that site for when DS is nearer to finishing Wink

caringcarer · 31/05/2024 20:12

Overthebow · 31/05/2024 18:12

It’s not new, it was like that when I graduated 14 years ago and it had been around long before that. We had a well established careers fair for the grad schemes at my uni every year and everyone applied for the grad schemes from the autumn before graduating and throughout the year. I think it was called milk round before my time at uni.

It was milk round. I graduated over 35 years ago and attended and applied for jobs on the milk round in my final year. Me and most of my friends had jobs lined up after graduation because we applied in our final year.

coupdetonnerre · 31/05/2024 20:12

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TruthorDie · 31/05/2024 20:12

I voted you are unreasonable as he’s 24 and never had a job. He needs to look for a job, rather than sitting on his area with everyone else paying for him

TruthorDie · 31/05/2024 20:13

Area = arse!

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:13

So ds says he doesn't know if he will be getting a job in his uni town or at home as he doesn't know if he's passed yet and would have to quit the job if in his uni town as he's using the accommodation until August

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HollyKnight · 31/05/2024 20:15

He probably doesn't want to apply for UC because he would have to prove that he is looking for work. As he does not want to look for work yet it is not really appropriate.

NeedToStopSpendingOnCrap · 31/05/2024 20:15

What area do you live in approx. Maybe we could all find him a job.
Carer work
Fast food chain
Cleaning
Warehouse

My dc got a job at 16 when at school in a local take away. £4 odd an hour.
He now does hospitality 16 hours a week at £11 so not amazing but along side college. Extra in half term. Doesn't particularly like it but it's a job
He walked around every weekend into the same places until a job was available.

He wouldnt even know UC was an option.

Castleview6 · 31/05/2024 20:16

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:09

He's signed up with a events agency I've already stated this.

When did he do this? If they’re not offering work he needs to spread the net a bit wider. He can put together a CV in an hour and have applied for jobs tonight. I’m fairly certain he’d have interviews and offers on Monday if he’s just looking to get a job to tide him over.

again, what’s his degree in? Or is there a reason you’re not answering this question? It’s relevant both in terms of hours in Uni and future job applications.

Holluschickie · 31/05/2024 20:16

As everyone has said, I don't think the taxpayer should be funding your son's quarter life crisis.

CadyEastman · 31/05/2024 20:16

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:13

So ds says he doesn't know if he will be getting a job in his uni town or at home as he doesn't know if he's passed yet and would have to quit the job if in his uni town as he's using the accommodation until August

Has he not heard of Temp Agencies? Although he'd be lucky to even get one of those jobs if he's never worked at 24.

HollyKnight · 31/05/2024 20:18

So ds says he doesn't know if he will be getting a job in his uni town or at home as he doesn't know if he's passed yet and would have to quit the job if in his uni town as he's using the accommodation until August

Why does it matter if he has to quit a job? Plenty of jobs have high turnovers in staff. It isn't an issue.

Hairyfairy01 · 31/05/2024 20:18

Physiotherapy!!! Most will work shifts as a physio assistant, HCA, sports centres etc whilst on the course (also the normal retail jobs). He should know if he is due to pass. Has he passed all of his placements? All of his assignments and exams to date? The only thing he may be a little unclear on is if he is getting a 2:1 or a 2:2 if he is borderline.

Band 5 rotational posts in the nhs for newly graduated physios have basically gone now. Where has he done his placements? Why hasn't he applied for jobs in those trusts?

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 20:18

I don't think people are listening properly he has worked before uni and I've disclosed his degree.

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Naran · 31/05/2024 20:18

OP this stuff about staying in his accommodation as it’s paid for is a red herring. If he lives at home, the total costs from May til August will be lower - he’ll be sharing meals with you etc.

He wants to have a 3 month summer without doing anything. That is fine - but it is not fine to try and claim benefits to facilitate it, I don’t think.

Birch101 · 31/05/2024 20:19

He signs up to a temp agency whilst he is applying for his professional graduate roles - that's what I did