To push ds into claiming

[Lacky301]

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

If he doesn’t live there and the dad lives alone then the dad can claim single parent discount.

He can't claim JSA without NI contributions on his record.

Are you serious? My DD1 has just finished uni and is waiting for results to apply for a "proper job". She is also staying in her accommodation until end Aug.
She is however waitressing full time to support herself in the meantime.
I can't believe your first instinct was for a fit healthy young man to claim benefits.

Ds doesn't claim a, discount where he's living the owners who provide the accommodation are responsible for council tax

That's the crux of it I don't want me or his dad to pay out anymore so I do want him to either claim in the short term or get a job quickly

So in a nutshell you gave him poor advice not to bother working yet now you have to fund the consequences of the advice you provided you prefer instead to let the taxpayer do it.....

This. This is just good parenting.

Again OP, is he expected to pass his course? Have you asked him?

Actually it shows no such thing if he's not yet secured even a random job, didn't apply to any grad schemes at the appropriate time and hasn't even completed a CV - instead it suggests someone who's determined to put off working for as long as he can

Worse still, future employers in whatever his chosen field is are going to want to know what he's done with this time, and the above isn't going to look good

My DC also just finished uni and staying there in accommodation until August too. The difference is they’ve always had a zero hours job in uni city so now working practically full time until accommodation move out date. They’ve also got a grad job starting September for which they interviewed back in January.

Lots of students will have gone home for the summer so there’ll be plenty of retail or bar work to pick up. Then a similar job at home until a graduate opportunity comes up. No need for Universal Credit.

If OPs son is living at home he had take literally any full time job which suits him and he won't have to worry about it coving the bills at home. My work offers production line work on a short term contract with much better conditions than retail and you are free to resign if you wish. There must be similar jobs OPs son could look for.

Sorry but what a load of crap, where do you live?

At his age he should be out knocking on doors to get some temporary work, there's all sorts he could be doing.

Huh, surprised at that as it sounds like he's there for longer than six months at a time, hence responsible for the tax himself. We had a right headache with DD around it as someone dropped out part-way through, losing the whole flat discount. Anyway, posted my thoughts on your initial question above. Good luck to both u and son

@Lacky301 well then tell him to get a job quickly! He can get any job to begin, whilst looking for his "perfect" job.

An employer would like to see a good work ethic...

That's not what this is about it's about ds having some money whilst he sorts his career not a lifestyle choice
He's had months to get a job lined up, I cannot believe he's convinced you he was unable to get summer jobs for the last few years!!
Seasonal jobs are filled by students every year, your son certainly has you well trained 🤣

Sorting out a career is a lifestyle choice, he should be working while he does that, not claiming benefits.

He is going to be at a disadvantage having not worked during Uni. Getting a grad scheme will be tough as they get lots of applicants and many of those will have been working part time during Uni, or will have a parent's mate who offered them an internship in a related field to the grad scheme.

Almost everyone at uni worked when I was there and most students still do. Amongst my friends at uni we worked at corner shops, supermarkets, take aways, high street shops, bars, coffee shops, one did breakfast service at a hotel in the city. We finished exams and the next day signed up to recruitment firms, applied for jobs in windows and trailed online.Only those bankrolled by mum and dad didn't work, but their parents were £££ and well connected so they did stuff like build schools in Africa or travelling or internship in dad's mates business for 6 weeks.

In the job market at the moment, if you don't have experience or been out of work it is tough out there. The job centre will encourage applying for every job.

He can absolutely take his time to find a job but it’s difficult to understand why everyone else should pay for this. If you want to give him the time then you should fund it.

There are plenty of jobs out there -they may not be what he wants to do long term but they will certainly see he over to the end of August if he wants to stay in his accommodation. It seems to me he’s being enjoying student life and doesn’t want to give it up/ pay for it himself.

What degree has he been taking? Most have minimal hours in colleague leaving students lots of time to find a job (most will have worked all through their degrees ). Even revising for finals/ writing a dissertation would leave time . If he can’t do this I wonder how he’s going to cope working a 40 hour week.

Universal credit is for working people

Well some need a little time to find thier feet everybody's different and follow different routes.

Absolutely you've a right to think this way, you pay for it, not me!

How many students up and down the country have just finished? How many of them had been extremely busy ?
How many of them are now working in any old job because it pays the bills?
I did packing / factory work / shop work/ bar work. Some of these jobs were two jobs at a time. Straight from one to the other.

I had been busy too.

Before leaving education (aged 24), I had little work experience - a few part-time, seasonal jobs but that was it. I was on benefits for a few months post-education, while job hunting.

I’ve been employed ever since and my salary crossed the 6 figure threshold years ago, and I’ve continued to get significant raises.

Do you think I should be kicking myself for not spending a little more of my youth working in a bar of whatever?

I’m not saying that getting some solid work experience as a teenager isn’t a good thing but it’s really not as important as you’re making out.

@AmpleFatball I think you're the exception and not the rule.

But you had work experience though?

"Part-time seasonal jobs" is work experience.

HAhahahahahaHAhahahahah

Yeah. Expect away. Because that's not what he's come to expect from you and his dad...

Has it occurred to you that the job market is significantly different now to how it was when you graduated?