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Wouldn't be friends with ... AIBU to judge her for this?

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FrancieM · 31/05/2024 11:08

Last night I went out to someone's leaving drinks at work, afterwards me and two my colleagues went to meet with one of their girlfriends who had been out too.
We were all quite drunk, I have met this girl a number of times and I quite liked her. We have a brunch just the two of us for Sunday.

I don't remember exactly how it came up but she mentioned that she's only really friends with people who went to private school. She explained that she finds some (not all) people who went to state schools like to discredit her success (she's 6 years younger than me, making 15k more than me in the same job more or less so she's doing well!). That she's appreciates she is privileged but that can only take you so far and she's also worked really hard. So generally she finds others who went to private school aren't so keen to bring her down a peg or two and value her success.
I think I jokingly drunkenly responded that she and her boyfriend are my only friends who went to private school (I went to a grammar school). She was clearly drunk so I wasn't taking her too seriously.
The conversation continued and we talked about groups of people that we don't really have any friends from or wouldn't be friends with (all white innocent stuff like people who post there every move on social media).
Then she said very much unprovoked "oh I'm not really friends with fat people" now this took me back. I asked her to explain and she said that she doesn't mean someone who's just a little overweight but someone who is obese. She said she just assumes they are quite lazy and wouldn't enjoy most of her hobbies and that she knows it mean but she does judge. Now I don't get this one, and really when I look on her instagram all her friends are size 6-8 stunning girls. She's a 6 but lives an almost unsustainably active life.

At the time I just brushed it off and changed the topic but now I'm thinking about it - it's awfully mean. I told my closest friend and she said that while she doesn't agree with it, she understands but thinks it's one of those thoughts that should be kept quiet.

Now I'm not sure what next, she's the first new friend I've had in years, we have a good laugh and I was actually really looking forward to a girly brunch. My others friends all have kids now (I have a 19 month old and it's nice to have a non mum friend who doesn't want to speak about kids all the time).
She's intelligent, well spoken etc. so makes for a good sober conversation (clearly her drunk chat leaves a lot to be desired).

So I guess my AIBU to judge the opinions she disclosed drunk and to be considering cancelling brunch/ending the short lived friendship off the back of it?
Or do we all have our less nice side and this is just hers?

OP posts:
Stainglasses · 31/05/2024 18:54

TwattyMcFuckFace · 31/05/2024 11:25

I wouldn't think twice about binning this one off because when it comes to friends, I choose quality over quantity.

If I had to think twice about it, I'd look at myself and wonder why I felt I needed to keep her around.

If the answer was because I felt I didn't have enough friends, I'd do something about that instead.

Totally agree with this!!!

Chickenuggetsticks · 31/05/2024 18:58

I find people who say stuff like that also judge people in other ways. It’s like being friends with someone who says snide things about mutual friends, you just know they say stuff about you too. I would be worrying about what she’s judging me over.

heretodestroyyou · 31/05/2024 19:02

She sounds absolutely fucking awful and I would totally judge you if you wanted to be friends with her.

I would tell her exactly why I didn't want to spend any time with her again.

Sue152 · 31/05/2024 19:14

I think she's projecting her insecurities here - she'd hate to have gone to state school and thinks state school people just want to pull her down, and she'd hate to be obese so she struggles to imagine being friends with those people.

I bet if she met someone obese from a state school who was really cool and confident she'd probably like them perfectly well.

LongSinceGotUpAndGone · 31/05/2024 19:37

Reliana · 31/05/2024 18:23

If you went to a top private school or boarding school then you’d be shocked how important this remains. It’s like a secret club and comes up quite often!

Ah, well, I went to a bottom-end comprehensive school so I clearly don't know the secret handshakes😂

I don't live anywhere near where I went to school and no one outside the area is likely to have heard of it, so if I was asked by someone I'd just say 'I was at school in MyOldArea'.

sweetpeaorchestra · 31/05/2024 20:09

I personally really dislike incredibly privileged people that are defensive about their success and keep pointing out they “worked really hard for it”. Like their office cleaner, who might have emigrated and has a second job, doesn’t work really hard.
No - you work hard and have all the confidence and connections private school gave you so are set to earn well above the majority.

So she sounds like an idiot to me, but I wouldn’t cancel brunch. I think having a broad social group is a good thing and you’re weary enough of her opinions to post about it here.

Whatmyname · 31/05/2024 22:27

FrancieM · 31/05/2024 11:18

See this is what I'd think too, but she's genuinely one of the most attractive and intelligent people I know?! It's very confusing as I never go the idea before now that she was like this at all. Seemed to all come out in a drunken rant.
But yeah I'm not sure I want to feel like I need to keep my weight in check or lose a friend and knowing that I'm her token state school friend 😬.
Shame as she was otherwise lovely and her boyfriend is a delight.

If she is so intelligent, why she has such narrow minded view on obese people?
Intelligent people can think beyond the surface level black and white thoughts of being fat = lazy.

Ferngardens · 31/05/2024 22:32

I'd run a mile but she wouldn't be friends with me anyway, I think what she's missing isn't that people discredit her success but actually think she's pretty horrible! If I was friends I'd always be checking I was doing the right things by her, which is no friendship at all. I wouldn't cancel your meet up but I'd probably try to find nicer people to be friends with. She might be pretty and intelligent, but I'm sure she's not half as clever as she claims, that's what private school buys you. That and the salary.

EnglishBluebell · 31/05/2024 22:43

ChildrenOfTheQuorn · 31/05/2024 11:22

I think it's just silly drunken rambling tbh and if the friendship is otherwise rewarding I'd just ignore it and move on. My friends aren't all carbon copies of me.

In other words, you agree with her? HmmBiscuit

crockofshite · 31/05/2024 22:46

People say stupid things when they're drunk.

Go to brunch and enjoy her company but be wary.... Hopefully it was a drunken misjudged one off. You'll soon find out .

sf99 · 31/05/2024 22:50

She sounds immature. And I'd probably give her the benefit of the doubt, if she's quite young.

I said all sorts of stupid stuff like that when I was in my early twenties but I was still a good person and a very loving and loyal friend. And my friends helped me grow to be more open minded and accepting.

So my advice is go ahead and meet her a few more times, be open and honest when you disagree with her, and see how it goes.

Lmox · 31/05/2024 23:05

I think those views are abhorrent but I really disagree with cutting off friendships because of problematic opinions. If we all did that, how would anyone ever grow or learn? Better to stay friends and challenge her opinions in a curious non confrontational way. No one responds to being called a knobhead might be but rather more amenable to a close friend explaining why they are being hurtful x

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