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To think my little boy is an absolute sweetheart?

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Maythefoursbewithyou · 26/05/2024 11:20

I don't drink often, almost never because I'm terrible at it. Anyway, a series of strange events yesterday meant that I ended up very much on the sauce and quite pickled when I went to bed at around 3am.
Husband is very asleep and I woke up about an hour ago feeling bloody rotten. My 7 year old came into my bed with a tin of biscuits and a pint of squash and had put ' call the midwife' on my work computer which doubles as the TV for my bedroom. I just couldn't love this kid any more right now. What a little legend he is. I don't deserve him. Currently smashing my way through some custard creams and watching my favourite show with the cutey next to me and feeling so bloody lucky. Lazy day incoming. Anyone else just get blown away sometimes by how nice their kids are and Wonder where it came from?

OP posts:
YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 14:09

TheShellBeach · 27/05/2024 14:06

I do agree with this.
Men should be able to parent their children without it being in any way remarkable or noteworthy.

And how generous of some men to "let" their wives have a lie in. It can't be an equal partnership, when permission has to be sought and granted for such basic stuff.

It tells me a lot about a dynamic when a partner says they have to be given permission to do something and also when they have to spell out that their partner provides base level care to their kids.

It’s even more telling when he’s described as “helping” a (disabled) child have basic level of care. Like it’s up to the kid, or someone else, and he’s doing them a favour.

It’s not a life I emulate I have to say

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:10

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 14:01

I’m referring to her night on the sauce.

I’ve explained already why two not-comatose adults being in the hour but not bearing over a 7yo 24/7 is fine

He let’s you have a lie in?! Lucky you. He dresses his own kids? What a hero!!

@YaMuvva

Ok, so having insulted me and my children, you’re now moving on to my husband?

Yes he lets me and I let him it’s reciprocal. Obviously at least one of us has to be up with the kids and if I want/need to sleep more he’ll be fine with it and I repay the favour.

What’s your issue with other people having a difference of opinion, and why does this provoke you to attack and insult others and be rude?

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 14:12

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:10

@YaMuvva

Ok, so having insulted me and my children, you’re now moving on to my husband?

Yes he lets me and I let him it’s reciprocal. Obviously at least one of us has to be up with the kids and if I want/need to sleep more he’ll be fine with it and I repay the favour.

What’s your issue with other people having a difference of opinion, and why does this provoke you to attack and insult others and be rude?

No I’m not insulting your husband but I won’t be impressed that a parent provides basic care for his kids.

I have also not insulted your children. You’re taking my generic posts personally.

I am however pretty appalled that you are being so judgmental and are also making things up entirely. That’s my problem. You’ve said on other threads you have been judged by other parents (or Judy’s) so I can’t imagine why in turn youd judge a perfectly fine situation. Smacks of “Do as I say not as I do”

TheShellBeach · 27/05/2024 14:15

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:10

@YaMuvva

Ok, so having insulted me and my children, you’re now moving on to my husband?

Yes he lets me and I let him it’s reciprocal. Obviously at least one of us has to be up with the kids and if I want/need to sleep more he’ll be fine with it and I repay the favour.

What’s your issue with other people having a difference of opinion, and why does this provoke you to attack and insult others and be rude?

I do not believe that @YaMuvva has insulted you or your husband.
You're extrapolating things that are simply not there, and claiming an agenda which only you appear to see.

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:15

Differentstarts · 27/05/2024 14:03

I know multiple people who have carers from 1 to 3 times a day. How else do you think the elderly and disabled stay in their own homes. Most don't have 5 year olds caring for them they hire adults

@Differentstarts

Yes you are right. Separate to PIP you can arrange personal care via the local authority, there will be several calls during the day to help with personal care needs, meals and so forth, no matter your age.

Whether you pay anything depends on your income level, savings and U.K. region.

My parent was certainly entitled to this when I was a child but didn’t avail of it because they didn’t want people to know how severe their problems were. It certainly would have made my life easier if they’d filled in some forms with support from SS and accepted the help.

wilteddandelion · 27/05/2024 14:16

Justcallmebebes · 27/05/2024 09:55

Let's hope not, because she can't spell it

A phycologist is a thing.....

wilteddandelion · 27/05/2024 14:17

ArmchairPhycologist · 27/05/2024 12:34

I'm afraid I'm a fraud @wilteddandelion

I did study algae and small things for a while and find them fascinating but not on a professional basis.

Ohhhhhhhhhh was it formal study or just a hobby? Can I PM you? (Sorry)

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:19

TheShellBeach · 27/05/2024 14:15

I do not believe that @YaMuvva has insulted you or your husband.
You're extrapolating things that are simply not there, and claiming an agenda which only you appear to see.

@TheShellBeach I can’t be bothered going through all her posts stating about my kids being this that or the other due to my parenting. But you can certainly see she is mocking me and my husband in her last post. And it’s not on.

I wouldn’t think to mock her, her partner or her parenting.

I’ve stated a strong opinion that I don’t think people should be getting pissed and having long lies when they’re responsible for kids. And if she has a difference of opinion that’s fine. It doesn’t give free reign to be nasty regarding my family.

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 14:23

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:19

@TheShellBeach I can’t be bothered going through all her posts stating about my kids being this that or the other due to my parenting. But you can certainly see she is mocking me and my husband in her last post. And it’s not on.

I wouldn’t think to mock her, her partner or her parenting.

I’ve stated a strong opinion that I don’t think people should be getting pissed and having long lies when they’re responsible for kids. And if she has a difference of opinion that’s fine. It doesn’t give free reign to be nasty regarding my family.

Again I said nothing about your kids or family I don’t even know you. It’s not all about you. I’m speaking generically about helicopter parenting. I AM mocking the concept that a man is a hero because he dresses his own kids. I cannot bear the infantilisation of dads.

Im just astonished that you’re so offended people would say things you don’t like about your parenting when you’ve not only been pretty nasty to the OP about her parenting, you’ve actually added untrue embellishments to her story

ForTheLoveOff · 27/05/2024 14:31

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 12:10

If other people wanna helicopter parent, fine, whatever, reap the consequences of it as I’m sure you will when your kids are older and are useless dependent or inconsiderate humans. But to judge others for NOT helicopter parenting, or not being overbearing, in the same of “they may have a one in a million catastrophic accident, I heard an urban legend of a woman who did one day and her child <insert terrible thing>” is just very shitty. Especially if you’re on other threads moaning about ‘judgmental judy parents’

BTW I am 100% NOT buying that an ambulance wouldn’t be dispatched for a child having a heart attack at 3am.

I hate to derail this thread further, but this kind of thing really bugs me and I agree with the above. A cardiac arrest in a child no doubt would be absolute #1 priority to any ambulance crew because the brain will be starved of oxygen in the space of about 4 minutes. Immediate and continuous CPR is needed until an ambulance arrives. You should not stop CPR- certainly not to flag someone down and drive them to hospital! So maybe it wasn't a cardiac arrest 🤔 anyway, I digress. Apologies OP. I hope you had a lovely morning snuggling with your boy ❤️

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:32

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 14:09

It tells me a lot about a dynamic when a partner says they have to be given permission to do something and also when they have to spell out that their partner provides base level care to their kids.

It’s even more telling when he’s described as “helping” a (disabled) child have basic level of care. Like it’s up to the kid, or someone else, and he’s doing them a favour.

It’s not a life I emulate I have to say

@YaMuvva

To be clear here, we have a disabled child and whenever they are with us it is easier to handle if both of us are present, but as he works longer hours often I do have more of the childcare responsibility and I am listed as the primary carer.

If either one of us wants to have a lie in or go off with friends or whatever it does have to go through some negotiation as the level of work, with having a disabled child amongst them, is greater. And so we need to be sure that whomever is left looking after kids while the other goes off has the capacity to cope and isn’t too tired from work or whatever else. If that is the case we are very blessed to have a great family to give some support so we don’t get burnt out.

If you want to draw a whole sexist nonsense out from me saying that my DH and myself let each other have a break where needed and engage others in this false rhetoric that’s up to you.

But it isn’t the reality of the situation, so please, again, just stop.

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:37

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 14:23

Again I said nothing about your kids or family I don’t even know you. It’s not all about you. I’m speaking generically about helicopter parenting. I AM mocking the concept that a man is a hero because he dresses his own kids. I cannot bear the infantilisation of dads.

Im just astonished that you’re so offended people would say things you don’t like about your parenting when you’ve not only been pretty nasty to the OP about her parenting, you’ve actually added untrue embellishments to her story

@YaMuvva

All I have said consistently is I don’t think it is responsible to go on the piss until 3am getting yourself into a state where you’ll be hungover and lying in whenever you haven’t arranged someone to be up with the children. That’s all.

Have a lovely day.

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 14:38

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:32

@YaMuvva

To be clear here, we have a disabled child and whenever they are with us it is easier to handle if both of us are present, but as he works longer hours often I do have more of the childcare responsibility and I am listed as the primary carer.

If either one of us wants to have a lie in or go off with friends or whatever it does have to go through some negotiation as the level of work, with having a disabled child amongst them, is greater. And so we need to be sure that whomever is left looking after kids while the other goes off has the capacity to cope and isn’t too tired from work or whatever else. If that is the case we are very blessed to have a great family to give some support so we don’t get burnt out.

If you want to draw a whole sexist nonsense out from me saying that my DH and myself let each other have a break where needed and engage others in this false rhetoric that’s up to you.

But it isn’t the reality of the situation, so please, again, just stop.

And now imagine how you’d feel if you posted a thread about your children having a sweet moment and people came on, judged you, pulled your parenting apart and made things up to add to your story to make you look, and feel, crap.

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 14:40

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:37

@YaMuvva

All I have said consistently is I don’t think it is responsible to go on the piss until 3am getting yourself into a state where you’ll be hungover and lying in whenever you haven’t arranged someone to be up with the children. That’s all.

Have a lovely day.

Why does OP have to arrange anything? Surely either her DH does or the arrangement is “The boy is 7 and can manage for an hour”. We are talking about a 7yo not a 1yo

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:53

I give up @YaMuvva we clearly think very differently about things and that is fine.

@ForTheLoveOff I have tried in vain to find the mother’s post on my neighbourhood forum to no avail. I don’t think it hit the papers. As far as I can remember she was on the phone for ages describing symptoms and they said it wasn’t top priority, she ran out onto the street in desperation, delivery driver took her and kid to hospital and shit hit the fan there, if he hadn’t had the kindness of this person he’d have not lived.

Anyway, it shocked me enough, particularly since one of DC has disability and all have asthma, to be super vigilant over always having someone sober available to drive. NHS is a disaster.

Ps this poor mum was in no way inebriated, but had no car/taxi/ambulance available to her when it happened.

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 14:55

Robinni · 27/05/2024 14:53

I give up @YaMuvva we clearly think very differently about things and that is fine.

@ForTheLoveOff I have tried in vain to find the mother’s post on my neighbourhood forum to no avail. I don’t think it hit the papers. As far as I can remember she was on the phone for ages describing symptoms and they said it wasn’t top priority, she ran out onto the street in desperation, delivery driver took her and kid to hospital and shit hit the fan there, if he hadn’t had the kindness of this person he’d have not lived.

Anyway, it shocked me enough, particularly since one of DC has disability and all have asthma, to be super vigilant over always having someone sober available to drive. NHS is a disaster.

Ps this poor mum was in no way inebriated, but had no car/taxi/ambulance available to her when it happened.

Edited

It’s fine to think differently about things but to come on a thread and be SO judgmental and embellish and exaggerate things relating to the OP, then to complain people are judging YOU - is massively hypocritical

Dont dish it out if you can’t take it

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@stealthlentil

because I have flu/vomiting and my DH has kids 😊

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Robinni · 27/05/2024 15:06

@stealthlentil

Trying to distract myself, utterly grim!! But probably easier wound up as ill so point taken!

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 27/05/2024 15:11

Well, this thread is a treat.

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Brawcolli · 27/05/2024 15:14

I can’t believe people are still wringing their hands over someone having a hangover and their child being kind to them. So silly!

Crazedndazed · 27/05/2024 15:15

Robinni · 27/05/2024 13:53

@Crazedndazed

They have a routine, bed by 8.30 week night, 9.30 on wkend if they want. No pushback or inclination away from this.

Usually they wake up after 10-11hrs so 6.30/7.30 perhaps stirred by DH being up, not sure….

I can’t physically restrain them to the bed, they don’t want to stay there.

So you’ve never not once done something to deviate from this, say a trip to a show, fireworks, a holiday? Sounds like borstal