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Grandparent moves grandchild to another country

131 replies

ChirpyBiscuit · 25/05/2024 21:20

AIBU to think that this should not be allowed to happen?
My mother has taken my daughter without my permission to another country meaning that she can’t easily see me or her siblings.
I am a kind, gentle, caring mother and AIBU to think that this is against human rights?

OP posts:
MyOtherHusbandIsAWash · 25/05/2024 21:21

Not sure about human rights but it’s against the law unless she has guardianship.

Beautifulbythebay · 25/05/2024 21:22

Seek legal advice on Tuesday urgently..

JacquesHarlow · 25/05/2024 21:22

Has she taken her permanently ?

or has she taken her on a holiday for an extended period, but your daughter will then be returned to you at the end?

“Human rights” is an often misnomered term on this website. I think I know what you mean but you may well be deemed AIBU for melodrama reasons

anyway - more detail needed

44PumpLane · 25/05/2024 21:23

Way more context needed here.....do you have guardianship of your child? Or does your mother?

Smartiepants79 · 25/05/2024 21:23

How old is your DD?
What you are implying so far is that your mum has essentially kidnapped your child?
How did they get her passport? Does she live with her?

CharlotteStreetW1 · 25/05/2024 21:24

Well on the face of it, of course you're not being unreasonable but I imagine there's more to it.

Is it a cultural thing? Have you called the police?

WilliamButt · 25/05/2024 21:24

Slight bit of context missing here, I'd say.

Toxicinlawz · 25/05/2024 21:25

Op your post doesn't make any sense really. You've not given us much info and what's being kind and gentle got to do with your mum taking your child away to another country ... how did she get her passport? I'm assuming they were already travelling and now she's taken her elsewhere ?

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 25/05/2024 21:25

Lots of missing info, do you have parental rights and full custody of your child, or does your mum have custody of your child?

Sunnysummer24 · 25/05/2024 21:26

How old is your daughter?
Why is she with her Grandmother not you? (Assuming she is a child)
Which country does the child normally live in?
Which country has she been taken to?
Is it a permanent move?

OhmygodDont · 25/05/2024 21:26

Presumably she has guardianship of the child and has permission to leave the country or rather doesn’t need it. Otherwise I’m sure your title would be about kidnapping.

EggcornAcorn · 25/05/2024 21:26

Which country does your daughter live in with you?

Which country has she been taken to?

What is your child's nationality?

How did your parent get the passport for your daughter?

I am sorry this has happened. Agree, seek urgent legal advice.

fedupwithbeingcold · 25/05/2024 21:28

More context needed. Did your mother come to your house and kidnapped your daughter? What country has she been taken to? How did she get hold of her passport? How old is your daughter?

Zonder · 25/05/2024 21:28

There must be more to this?

TreadLight · 25/05/2024 21:32

On the basis of the information in the OP, I would have thought this would be a 999 call to the police.

Crumpetsssss · 25/05/2024 21:32

Unless there’s a massive backstory, then YANBU. It’s not allowed to happen.

I suspect there’s a whole heap more to it though.

EggcornAcorn · 25/05/2024 21:33

You all make good points about there being perhaps more to this than the straightforward presentation in the OP.

mitogoshi · 25/05/2024 21:33

Unless she has guardianship, she wouldn't have her passport surely?

Cherrysoup · 25/05/2024 21:34

As in permanently?

karottybagel · 25/05/2024 21:35

Does she legally need your permission?

Marianus · 25/05/2024 21:36

The fact that you say “I am a kind, gentle, caring mother”, suggests that someone has suggested you’re not.

Has your daughter been removed from your care?

BMW6 · 25/05/2024 21:37

You need to ring the Police surely? What's the background to this OP?

Where are you? What country has your DD been taken to?

Why has this happened?

Kitkat1523 · 25/05/2024 21:38

If you are in the U.K. then guessing there is at least an ICO in place

Ponderingwindow · 25/05/2024 21:39

If she does not have the legal right to take your child, then report her for kidnapping. The reality of having your child returned depends upon the destination country, but you should still make the report.

if she is in fact the child’s legal guardian with parental decision making, then she is likely allowed to make whatever decisions she wishes.

The caveat would be if she is subject to restrictions in her guardianship, which might exist if the child is under the protection of child services. If this is the scenario, you should contact child services.

Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · 25/05/2024 21:39

Is there the slightest possibility of FGM?

Unless there is vital information missing (like your mum has full permission from the courts to take your dd to another country), you should consider going to the police. If FGM is involved, you MUST go to the police.