Grandparent moves grandchild to another country

[ChirpyBiscuit]

AIBU to think that this should not be allowed to happen?
My mother has taken my daughter without my permission to another country meaning that she can’t easily see me or her siblings.
I am a kind, gentle, caring mother and AIBU to think that this is against human rights?

This. I'm getting big red flags from this post tbh. Straight from the 'caring, kind, considerate mother' bit or whatever it said.

No woman should have a child taken for her for no reason. I don’t know why they let her take her from me

She wasn't taken away from you for no reason. There was a court case and your mother was awarded custody, is that right? You might not agree with the outcome, but that's not the same as there being "no reason".

How old is your daughter? Would you not have been allowed to meet her at a contact centre or even in the community if you didn't want to encounter your mother?

If you have parental rights, apply to the Geneva Convention (assuming she is in Europe) and have her returned to the country you all lived in. Have grandmother charged with kidnapping. Call the bloody police and start there.

Presumably reasons were given by the court which ordered custody?

Did you have lawyers?

These threads are so frustrating. Clearly only getting half the story, the OP taking the line of big bad social services snatching children from loving parents who did nothing wrong - clearly a load of nonsense but so deep in denial that she can't even be honest with herself never mind the rest of us.

I think this poster is in Australia and posted a very long thread that was strange to say the least.

Yes, what was all that about?

For the OP, it was all about the car she was PROMISED and didnt get!! Everything that's ever went wrong came back to that! 🙄

There's a lot more to this than OP is telling us. I wonder if she'll come back and answer any questions that may help.
I find it strange it seems to be more about her than the welfare of her dd.
Where is dad in all of this and does he get a say?
Why is OP unable to take advice on anything? [unless I missed something]].

It is exceptionally rare for parental responsibility to be taken away from a birth parent. It doesn’t mean that another parent or guardian isn’t responsible for their care and upbringing. Since this issue has been through the court and they have ordered she lives with her Grandmother then it is likely she has other rights about international travel. Like anyone with a lives with order.

Can you link to that thread? I am so totally lost on this thread, I could use a map and flashlight.

Why aren't you saying why your Mum has custody apart from telling lies?

I've been trying to find it myself, without success.

I think it disappeared as a 'this isn't helping the op' reason!

This might be it:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/aussie-nz-mumsnetters/4992287-unjust-custody-situation

Think that's it @TheShellBeach ! Good skills!

I think a lot depends on the legal situation, who has PR, whether there is an SGO in place etc.

My understanding (assuming you re in the UK and the grandparent has an SGO in place) they can take the child overseas for up to 3 months without your permission, even if you have PR.

Seek legal device to be certain, though.

Social service can’t romove a child. A judge makes that decision based on representation of both social services and the parents. It’s never done for no reason and the bar is set very high. Too high in my opinion.

There is no way your child was removed without any reasons given. You may disagree with those reasons but they would have been given.

How old is your daughter?

I’m going to guess that the daughter is 35

That's not true
You do know....you just think its lies
But the reasons were given in court and will have been explained to you.

This whole thread is very odd

If it is the same poster then it doesn't tie in with what is described here.....but to be honest none of it seems particularly believable.

flogging a dead horse here, chums !

I am guessing your daughter's siblings have a different father/s to your daughter.

That’s exactly what I thought.

OP if you want help you need to come back and answer the questions.