Grandparent moves grandchild to another country

[ChirpyBiscuit]

AIBU to think that this should not be allowed to happen?
My mother has taken my daughter without my permission to another country meaning that she can’t easily see me or her siblings.
I am a kind, gentle, caring mother and AIBU to think that this is against human rights?

It can be the case that a child is removed from a parent but subsequent children are not. It could be that if you are deemed capable of parenting your other children that you could get custody back, but I believe this can be difficult and you would need league advice.

Unfortunately you can't stop your mother moving with your child if she has parental responsibility.

@Marianus
I am being honest

No you aren’t. You haven’t said what you were accused of, what process was followed to remove your child, if it’s permanent, if not how your mother was able to take your child out of the country, how you have contact with your child.
What advice are you looking for here?

You’re lying by omission

It will be a nice break for her to have a holiday abroad. Relax and enjoy the time off!!

I would notify Social Services and let them know that you didn’t agree to the child being permanently relocated to a new country (if not a holiday)
If your child is under 18, then grandma can’t remove her under the rules of The Hague Convention.

Well I Googled and it seems if you have PR then you could apply to the Courts for custody, but as the Courts have already awarded Custody to your Mum I guess that ship has sailed - a long time ago as you have said.

When your DD is over 18 she will have the rights as an adult to see you as much as she likes.

How old is she now?

Of course she fucking can if she has PR ….which OP says she has custody

Can you have pr if granny has been awarded custody. How old is dd. How are you in contact with each other and know she misses you

It sounds like far too complex a situation for AIBU. You need proper advice.

Is the threshold for removal of parental rights not quite high?
But the fact that op is more worried about her rights and not her daughters well being is quite odd.

It is very high so high.

It's not about the child it's about the poster. She's made that clear

Are you supposed to have visitation? You make it sound as if you have some kind of contact if she's expressed on the phone she wants to see you- how old is she? You can always ask social service if the move was allowed- how long ago did it happen?

What you expecting children’s service to do? ….it was the family Courts who gave the GM custody….the mother will have had her own barrister….the DD will have had a guardian allocated to ensure her best interests …. The DD is legally placed in the care of the GM

Are you the Australian poster? Who blames her dad for not selling a car?

Oh god, maybe

Oh. Quite, that was exhausting just to read that thread.

I need to know what this is

This is exactly my thoughts . Your daughter’s age , what the courts have accepted . Was you given ways of Dd returning to your custody . Is she in a question with in hague convention.

Do you have contact regular contact?

It’s really best not to. She’s infuriatingly compelling, or compellingly infuriating. I’m not sure which 😂

I don’t think this is necessarily correct and the OP should get legal advice.

Social services are very big on “open adoptions” which means ongoing contact and connection with biological parents who have had their rights terminated. Unless the children were fully legally adopted by the grandma as opposed to kinship guardianship, she can’t just permanently remove the child to another country if under 18 without SS authority.

My daughter’s siblings still live with me.

This is very odd way of putting it.

Please can I have a link to the dad-car thread?

You're not making sense. Either your mother has legal custody of your daughter and you would have to go through the courts to get this rescinded.
Or your mother doesn't have legal custody therefore she has kidnapped your daughter and you get the police involved.

Are you in the U.K.? Or a different country?
if the GM has an SGO ( special guardian ship order) in the U.K. it will be court granted by a judge ….the terms of this will override any SS involvement

the Op will have been represented by a barrister at the time the GM was awarded custody