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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

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P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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Lightfrost · 24/05/2024 20:09

Whether the other driver was or wasn't adhering to the speed limit isnt relevant.

  1. Had you been instructed by signs to move to the right lane for the flyover?
  1. Were you actively overtaking?

If the answer to both of the above is no, you were in the wrong. It's that simple.

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:09

Flower35214 · 24/05/2024 20:07

"So we don't need to adhere to the speed limit"

You literally completed a speed awareness course not that long ago.. So which one are you, so against speeding you won't move lanes or got caught speeding so now you want to control the speed everyone else can drive?

No speed Renee’s was a good while ago, years.

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ACynicalDad · 24/05/2024 20:10

If you're doing the speed limit and you aren't far from where you need to be in it then I think it's fine. If it was miles away then probably better to be in the left lane.

Pollipops1 · 24/05/2024 20:10

Obviously speeding car should have also been in the left lane too and not speeding.

Flugelb1nder · 24/05/2024 20:11

You should be in the left lane unless overtaking

Oblomov24 · 24/05/2024 20:11

You should have been in the left hand lane. And you know it.

Fatotter · 24/05/2024 20:11

Depends if the left lane was free and traffic light you should be in the left lane and change lanes when necessary for your right turn off. . If it’s busy and you feel you won’t be able to get over then it’s reasonable to stay in the right lane on approach to your turn off on the right (for example if both lanes are congested with slow moving traffic in each lane).

You have to adapt to the driving conditions at the time.

I don’t antagonise bumper huggers anymore if I can avoid them or appease them I do. So many false claims and violence on the road now.

pastaandpesto · 24/05/2024 20:13

I do understand where you are coming from OP. Aggressive, speeding drivers make the roads more dangerous for everyone and it's tempting to try and curtail their shitty behaviour.

But it doesn't work. They don't give a shit, and attempting to teach them a lesson by blocking them just leads to two distracted drivers and an even more dangerous situation overall. You should have calmly moved over and not returned to the right hand lane until necessary.

zaffa · 24/05/2024 20:13

I did a speed awareness course recently and they covered this. You are correct to not speed, I was quite shocked at the impact being even a couple of miles over the limit could have on stoppage times and injury to anyone who gets hit by you.
But you can't control other people - the safest thing to do in that situation is pull over. Otherwise you are stressed and tense, and the other driver is probably wound up and on an aggressive power trip. Neither are safe for driving. Our instructor told us to just let them overtake and move on with your day. If you can't move over, he suggested extending your travel distance with the car ahead to give you more space in case he hits or shunts you from behind.

BobnLen · 24/05/2024 20:13

When someone is caught speeding on here people call them everything and say of course no one should speed but on this thread posters are saying people should speed, how very odd

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 24/05/2024 20:14

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:04

So we don’t need to adhere to the speed limit?

Obviously we should stick to the speed limit, @P3kingDuck - I don’t think anyone is arguing the opposite - but the only driving standards you can control are YOUR driving standards.

Hence, you should have followed the Highway Code and returned to the left hand lane after overtaking, and stayed there until you needed to move into the right hand lane when the dual carriageway split. It wasn’t your job to try to stop the other driver speeding.

Topofthemountain · 24/05/2024 20:15

I had similar happen to me yesterday, except I was indicating to turn right off the dual carriageway. It was absolutely ridiculous. The speed and closeness he was to me was terrifying. Thank goodness the filter lane was clear as I pulled into at full speed. Usually other drivers see you are indicating to turn right and move over to the left to allow you to slow.

OP - Never post on AIBU about a driving incident. It will always be your fault no matter what. The fact that every action the other driver took was illegal is irrelevant, the fact that if you admit to doing 31 in a 30 you are a monster, but here you are completely wrong to criticise his speeding.

Sometimes it is not safe to be chopping and changing lanes, especially when you have a need to be in the right hand lane, the fact he had time to undertake is irrelevant, he was probably incredibly unsafe when doing so and no doubt caused others to have to brake.

He was a twat.

(Signed a black Audi and BMW driver)

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2024 20:15

BobnLen · 24/05/2024 20:13

When someone is caught speeding on here people call them everything and say of course no one should speed but on this thread posters are saying people should speed, how very odd

Is anyone saying that? No, they're saying the OP shouldn't lane hog. If the other driver was here too, they'd be told not to speed.

Aroundthefur · 24/05/2024 20:15

You should have been on the left. You were both wrong; both of you were hazards for different reasons. I often drive in the right hand lane on the motorway but I will always move over if I am going at a similar speed to the left or middle lane, and even if I’m not, I’ll move over if someone comes behind me who is faster. You can’t control other drivers I’m afraid!

WithIcePlease · 24/05/2024 20:16

NashvilleQueen · 24/05/2024 19:59

It's not your job to police others. Unless you are overtaking stay left.

This
Its dangerous
If people want to speed, it's up to them not you. They may overtake on inside after tailgating you. Not good.

Also, your speedo may say 50 and speedo's under read speed

AgnesX · 24/05/2024 20:16

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:58

But why did anybody need to overtake if I was doing the speed limit? We would both be getting off at the same place.

What the other person was doing was none of your business. You should have been back in the left lane where you belonged.

Meadowfinch · 24/05/2024 20:16

You broke the highway code. Unless you were overtaking, you should not have been in the right hand lane. You should always return to the left hand lane where possible.

What speed others do is none of your business.

You really need to take your test again if you think you are competent, because you certainly aren't.

fieldsofbutterflies · 24/05/2024 20:16

Of course you're wrong.

It doesn't matter if the other driver wanted to speed, it's not up to you to control that.

RubySloth · 24/05/2024 20:17

No, it's an overtaking lane ffs. Always keep to the left.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2024 20:17

Tinyhattinycat · 24/05/2024 20:06

Speeding is never acceptable

This is also not true. There's obvious ones like emergency vehicles. But also sometimes a safety reason to speed. The clearest example is a lorry changing lane into your lane without looking, you have someone close behind you, nothing in front, no lane to the other side. Accelerating out of the way is safer than the alternative.

BobnLen · 24/05/2024 20:17

You will never be right on here on a driving thread, MN is full of drivers that think they are perfect.

StMarieforme · 24/05/2024 20:18

Everyone is explaining why. You are choosing not to listen.

SoupDragon · 24/05/2024 20:18

Lightfrost · 24/05/2024 20:09

Whether the other driver was or wasn't adhering to the speed limit isnt relevant.

  1. Had you been instructed by signs to move to the right lane for the flyover?
  1. Were you actively overtaking?

If the answer to both of the above is no, you were in the wrong. It's that simple.

This.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 24/05/2024 20:20

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:58

But why did anybody need to overtake if I was doing the speed limit? We would both be getting off at the same place.

To which the obvious question is why did you need to be in the right hand lane if you weren’t overtaking? Surely you should have been in the left lane and let other people do what they want…you’d have both got to the same place…

Pollipops1 · 24/05/2024 20:20

I often drive in the right hand lane on the motorway but I will always move over if I am going at a similar speed to the left or middle lane, and even if I’m not, I’ll move over if someone comes behind me who is faster.

but it’s the overtaking lane