To think we are being lined up for something?

[BeverForget]

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

I don’t think it’s a bad idea to encourage people to have a supply of food to hand.

whether that’s because ‘they’ know something we don’t, I don’t really know. I’m not in the uk either, but we have testing of emergency alerts for mobiles. I don’t intend to leave home either way.

…and you thought you’d find the answers on MumsNet?!

Russia is making moves, maybe we are preparing for a war, makes me cry to think about it though.

You aren’t wrong in your feeling, but you also haven’t spotted a secret. Russia is unfriendly to NATO and has become much more aggressive in the past two years, and defence leaders have said we need to be more prepared, as previous generations were, should the UK become involved in a more frontline kind of war or should the war affect our supply chains(and being unprepared prevents attack).

There have also been shortages of certain foods, medicines and products in recent years due to weather, the war in Ukraine, and attacks on shipping in the Red Sea.

None of this is a conspiracy and it’s all in the public news, alongside leaders explicitly saying we’re in more dangerous times and the public should be aware. It’s a set of circumstances that means it would be irresponsible for any government not to act to boost our food security (and other measures, like putting money into defence and societal resilience)

Agree. People almost gleefully envisioning a virus with a higher mortality rate than Covid, just so everyone would be scared into complying with any rules… I wouldn’t want to live like that tbh 🤷‍♀️

And why shouldn’t people, of all ages, do something to improve this country and help get it out of the sorry state it’s in?

Hilarious.

Plus Brexit which arguably Russian disinfo got it over the line as it was so close. £150 billion lost that we could have spent on .....the armed forces amongst other stuff !

I agree something is afoot, but hopefully more about general resilience than something more sinister.

Huge parts of society seem incapable of planning for or mitigating risks these days and expect the gov/someone else to be on hand to sort it immediately if something in the supply chain or environment goes wrong. So not necessarily a bad thing if it encourages a few more to have a few days supplies, or a torch, candles etc if possible.

Kinda proving the point I guess! Hope you made it through unscathed.

I think he called the election as interest rates came down the day before and are expected to come down further.

I had mumps when I was 4 and German measles as young adult but yes, no lasting harm thanks as far as I know 🙂

@Teddybear23, You seemed to be making a serious accusation. I hope you are not forgetting to clarify what you meant?

And the privileged few will wiggle out of it somehow

It sounds more like he’s desperate not to win.
National service isn’t a vote winner. In a recent poll 60% were against it.
I do wonder why anyone campaigning to get back into power would suggest such a thing, it can’t be just to real in a few Reform votes,

Exactly this! Can you imagine the terror in the UK if social media and the current msm had been flooding us with information in the period leading up to the second World War? Or during it? Perhaps the panic would have floored us all! Anxiety must be a terrible thing to have, and I'm SO sorry for anyone suffering from it, but do keep far away from the news and threads about future wars and unrest. Guard yourself well - you are important and loved by those around you and need to be as strong as you can for them.

The privileged few have probably already done ccf at school.
Its worth noting it’s those that usually join up full time as well which is why there’s a push for a more multicultural armed forces. A recruitment officer resigned after being told they couldn’t employ white males.

Not a stupid concept at all. You don't need the weather man to know which way the wind is blowing. Ukraine war ramping up. China is looking closely at Taiwan. Red Sea blockades. Gaza/Palestine/Iran/Israeli conflict. If folks can't see that this at very least is likely to lead to supply shortages they are delusional. Food shortages may well be the least of our worries.

• My biggest worry is not National Service - that happens in other countries without disastrous results - its the Labour suggestion of votes for 16 year olds. Your 16 year old may be incredibly intelligent and wise, but if they're too young to get a tattoo or enlist without parental permission, they're too young to vote.

Yep, totally agree. Now this is something that reeks of desperation.

But not to young to work, marry, start a family etc? They are able to partake in lots of things impacted directly by political decisions and should have a say in who is making those decisions. Many of them are a damned sight more politically savvy than older voters.

Agree 100% Especially the "older voters" in favour of sending those same 16 year olds off for national service in 2 years time!

I’m an ‘older’ voter.

I think National Service is abhorrent.

Clearly it’s not every single older voter but generally these policies do well with the over 50/60s and that’s why the Tories are going for them, it shores up their base.

Guessing you're a Tory?

The conservatives have such a better deal in terms of how the voting boundaries have been drawn up.

Enabling 16/17 year olds to vote is a great idea in my opinion. Get them to engage in voting while they are young and idealistic.

Letting the old folks run the country hasn't worked, why not try something else?