To think that those private school parents banging on about their fees

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Seriously have misjudged how little anyone else gives a stuff??? NHS, social care, state education, public transport, bloody potholes everywhere - that’s what matters to everyone I know.
Not whether or not VAT is added to a business.

YANBU - it’s hardly the end of the world if Clemmie or Charles end up going to a state school. We have bigger things to worry about in the U.K. right now

YABU - of course everyone cares private school parents might have to pay more

Try reading what I wrote.

For parents who cannot afford to keep their SEN kids in private and have to withdraw them come September that is exactly the same as if the PP's child's school was to suddenly close.

This is hilarious, we aren’t all envious of having the opportunity to apply huge pressure to our DC at exam time, we aren’t all envious to force them into playing team sports they’re not interested in and frankly some of the private schools around here have parents that are not people you envy. Private school unlike state school nurtures a sense of entitlement not to be mistaken for self-confidence, there is certainly an advantage in perceiving everything as needing to go your way regardless of the detail. State school children don’t expect things to go their way as 9 times out of 10 it probably won’t for them so there is a realism that is no contender to this entitled extroversion. The fact is, you are never going to be able to emulate that in a state school setting as that isn’t the culture of most state schools, I truly think this is what most parents are trying to buy especially aspirational ones.

Isn’t it too late to withdraw them in September? Don’t you have to give a term’s notice? It’s a bit late to find a state school place as well.

Intel from Labour? Surely not.

They think some women have penises, basic biology fail ❌ . So they are almost certainly not up for even foundation level economics . Fail ❌

You know another of Labour’s advanced proposals is to allow a man to say he’s a woman, get it signed off eg. by an online GP £45 and there SHE IS!! A woman. So when Labour say they’ll protect women’s safe spaces - that’s a lie. Because their version of women, includes men.

But I digress. Labour, it’s a no from me.

4.9% of pupils have an EHC plan and 15.2% have SEN support in Independent Schools

there is often a drain at sixth form from my kids private school as parents try and game university entry. This year so many have decided not to stay on because of the increases.

I could not agree more. It pisses me off how these throwaway comments are banded around on here when people have no clue what they are talking about. All contextual offers do is level the playing field a little bit for deprived DC. Can anyone really begrudge that? The 'state school kids getting all the best places' has become a face-saving trope when a private school DC doesn't get an Oxbridge or similar place. It is simply a case that when unfair has been the norm for so long that when things get a tiny bit fairer, it feels so terribly unfair.

You may have to pay a terms fees, but that's less than a full year.

LAs are obliged to find you a place in a state school.

For what it’s worth, my kids are at private school, I’ve heard no one whinging about this. Everyone I know is so sick of the Tories that they intend to vote labour and deal with the consequences down the line. It will affect our lives but I’m also considering my elderly parents who can’t get a doctors appointment and the general state of the country under this shit show of a Government.

I'm in a similar boat with my youngest SEN DC. He's in Y11 and will be moving to the state sector for sixth form.

I work full time in a relatively poorly paid admin job purely to cover his fees (16k pa). A 20% increase won't match whatever paltry pay increase we will be awarded later in the year and my husband has now retired. We have had one cheap holiday abroad in 22 years.

I have been working for nearly 40 years. There's a chance I can finally give up my job this year and allow the state to take over the funding of my DC's eduction.

That wouldn't give them an advantage over state school children. Most of the state school children who get in have had some tutoring too.

My kids went to a private primary and so many of the kids had sen. In fact that's precisely why they went to the school.

And your point is?

@Beansticks doesn't think SEN kids go to private schools

I have a friend who teaches in the private sector and she says so much of the alleged SEN she sees wouldn’t be regarded as SEN in the state sector.

You said 'very few SEN kids are educated privately' - in fact nearly 20% of private pupils are SEN

Ah so now private parents are faking their child's SEN...

I thought lefties were supposed to be the nice caring types?

I send my children to private school. I'm amazed at the number of posters who think this is to avoid mixing with state pupils.
It does worry me that it is against EU law to charge VAT on education. Will Labour go for University next? What other "inconvenient" EU laws will they decide to drop (if not already left out of post brexit legislation) . Food standards? Water standards? There's also been mention of them charging VAT retrospectively, something I find deeply concerning.
I'm also not convinced of the benefit, the Brexit bus springs to mind.
There will definitely be a net movement away from private schools in the short term, as people see how the policy affects the system. We're planning on moving ours at the next natural exit points.
In my opinion there are significantly more important issues than a few children at private school. I'd prefer labour to focus on them.

There are SO MANY spaces in SO MANY primary schools. It will be fine.

So now the kids that will allegedly leave will all be SEN not grammar school stealers. Make your mind up. Interesting that with SEN figures apparantly so high in the private sector the private sector is still massively over represented in the top unis and jobs. 🤔

What a vile thread - people should be ashamed.

Parents want the best for their children there is nothing wrong in that - why the vitriol?
We all have choices and we all make different choices -does not make one better than the other.

Seriously sad to see the vitriolic nasty comments on here

Thankfully we just missed this. My kids have just left private for university. We are pretty well-paid public sector workers but would be the minority who would definitely have to take our kids out if the fees increased like this. The school would have replaced us with other wealthier families though so the demographic there would just get more elite.

We are pretty ordinary folk with no ‘connections’ or influence etc. But I am very flattered to think that the very presence of my kids at a state school would cause standards to rise there . Who knew I had so much power 💪😏

If 15-20% of privately educated children have SEN, that leaves 80-85% who don’t.
You’re welcome

I've noticed this new narrative that "private school parents will just buy all the houses around good state schools and drive all the poor people out of the area" has suddenly sprung up and is now being peddled en masse on virtually every politically related thread.

Have all the private school parents got their own little group where they coordinate these campaigns, or is it just a case of one person thinking, "Hmm, none of the plebs seem to care about this, but they do care about housing. Maybe if I link the two, they'll lend us some support," and everyone else has jumped on the bandwagon?

I have just googled the price of a four bed house near our closest sought-after state secondary in London. No houses available but a four bed flat is £1.3 million. Some local private school family needs to snap that bargain up…