To think that fascist school attendance policies are responsible for the spread of TB locally

[leftkneeonbackwards]

Well, the policies, and those stupid enough to follow them. and probably measles too, although thankfully, most children make a full recovery from measles. TB leaves many people with life long disabilities though, and I know two young girls who are likely to now be infertile, and a boy with other disabilities. I am sure that TB would not be so widespread if people ignored stupid pointless school threats, were sensible about keeping sick children out of school.

Nearly every school in the country has much worse attendance now than they did pre covid. That means more children are missing school regularly than they were before. If anything parents are more cautious than pre covid about sending children to school when unwell. So hence why there is an attendance drive. But should mean less children are experiencing widespread illness that you have mentioned….

well measles is booming, and TB is widespread, and spreading locally, and I think that the individuals I know who have these illnesses are pretty intimidated by school emails and phone calls and threats for being off, and have brought these illnesses into school as a result

If only there were vaccinations!

If these conditions are rife it's poor vaccination uptake surely. Schools willl close if outbreak is significantly high enough to cause risk.

TB vaccination is around 50% affective at preventing lung infection. It is worth having as it is about 75% effective at preventing brain infection, and of course, the more people vaccinated, the less the spread, but vaccinations cannot prevent it taking hold in a school

er, no they won't. not for TB

The numbers for TB may be very small, single figures per school, but devastating for those individuals

I am very pro vaccine but BCG ( the vaccination for TB) is not routinely given in the UK.

Not sure where you are but I wouldn't expect widespread immunity in the UK

https://www.nhs.uk/vaccinations/bcg-vaccine-for-tuberculosis-tb/#:~:text=The%20BCG%20vaccine%20is%20recommended%20if%20you're%20staying%20for,friends%2C%20family%20or%20local%20people

The narrative for the last few years has been dont live in fear, diseases are part of life, diseases are rife because people have not been exposed to a them as a result. hybrid immunity is important... What did people expect would happen...

TB is a notifiable disease. As such, schools have an obligation to inform the LA of an outbreak and do their bit to control the spread of disease - something that has been tightened up massively post-covid.

Measles outbreaks are down to people not vaccinating their children, thanks to persistent myths about MMR and autism, which has hugely increased public anxiety around the safety of vaccines in general (screw you, Wakefield).

School attendance is massively lower than pre-covid. You should see some of the things kids are off school with on a daily basis.

Honestly, is there something that isn't seen as schools' fault anymore?

Brilliant. One of the best threads yet. As said earlier, if ONLY there was a vaccine!
Can I blame schools for childhood obesity too? I mean If only they didn’t make them start so early, children wouldn’t have to rush to get there by car! The list is endless.

When did vaccination stop? I had it.

Attendance is a real problem. We have lots of children missing a day of school a week so the policies clearly aren’t working! So how can schools be blamed for this?

I’m fed up of schools getting blamed for everything.

The school attendance policy...

Or the parents work attendance policy so they choose sending their slightly ill child to school so they don't risk losing their job?

About 20 years ago.

I think you have misunderstood the word ‘fascist’.

No, that would be the decision not to vaccinate against TB because "it's not in the UK" even though people enter the country and it's very obviously here as evidenced by the people catching it. The decision not to vaccinate is both stupid and not the fault of schools.

I love the random use of the word “fascist” here, Like in an episode of “The Young Ones” , very nostalgic!

Me too. I only know of two people who've had TB in my 50 years. One had spent several weeks visiting family in Pakistan and the other was very elderly.

You say locally in your OP, where are you @leftkneeonbackwards and are those contracting TB not seeking treatment?

Get your facts straight before sprouting ridiculous assertions about disease transmission and effects

Do we have stats for the vaccination rate in the impacted cohorts and infected individuals? Surely we need that before you can say categorically that vaccination take up is not a.factor.

I'm fed up of people sprouting complete b.lox! No idea, but scream about it anyway, blaming every agancy except their parenting.

Fascist?

Are you OK OP?

Are you talking about measles or TB?

With the former, vaccine uptake is highly significant in the increasing spread of measles.

Routine TB vaccination is no longer given, which is less than ideal, given that there are now strains spreading that are resistant to antibacterial drugs.

Ignore me - as per pp bcg is not routinely given anymore, however it sounds like you would only need vaccination if you are travelling to certain countries - are the individuals traveling without getting the appropriate vaccines?

My point does stand for measles though.