Londoners have absolutely decimated my city

[CrushedOrange]

NC as really outing.
I'm a musician and over the years I have seen what was a steady stream of londoners turn into a flood this year.
I'm so gutted. I know everybody has the right to live here but it has pushed so many of my friends out, artists and other musicians. It pisses me off that the whole reason these londoners moved here, they are also destroying.
I'm lucky as my landlord is really decent and hasn't put my rent up in years, so I can afford to stay here. But now I'm considering just leaving because of the vibe factor. It makes me really sad. I still gig a few times a week but the crowd is different. I miss my community, but now everybody is scattered as everyone who was pushed out has gone to different places.
I'm considering just jumping ship and moving on myself but I don't know where to go.
Today some more londoners moved into the street...The whole street is full of scaffolding as they seem to really love doing home improvements 😅
I know I sound really bitter. I guess I am. I don't know whether to stay or go, and of I go, where to?

How many people London born and bred (apart from those lucky enough to have been able to buy a council house at a discounted price two or three decades ago) can still afford to live there now?

The ones I know who stayed have had help from parents including myself. Not many can afford the actual roads/houses from their childhood though.

Whaaaat?! They've killed 1 in every 10 people?
Why is this not in the news?

I don’t like Brighton. I won’t be moving there. As a pp said, it had its heyday in the 90’s - that’s when it was a genuinely cool city with an authentic, underground vibe and a bit creatively raw around the edges. It attracted some awesome new talent musically. But now it is a shadow of its former self

That's what I was thinking.

OP. This article explains what happened to Manchester 😡
Read and weep.

You're not a tree you can move wherever you want to. I think the problem lies more with those buying up all the houses and renting them out for silly money.

I've moved from Bristol to Wales but my children go to school here etc we couldn't get what we wanted and I was fed up having to live in rough areas just to stay in my hometown. I don't think it's fair to tarnish everyone with the same brush and you can't base your success on other people. I think it comes down to luck in your industry. There's a good club here that bands from all over even America come to. Maybe it will be good to move somewhere else and start afresh. I'm sure wherever you go you'll be competing with someone.

I agree OP it has become much worse in recent years. I don't really get to enjoy the fun bits as I have two kids, but have to endure walking around town and it's not really fun. Busy, loud, full of traffic, dirty and shabby and so many small shops have closed down, and getting more dangerous as well (a few stabbings in the last couple of years - probably drug related but very offputting) :( Maybe I am now too old for it or something. And I never really feel secure here despite living here for so many years - we are in a private rental and that could be taken away or made unaffordable so easily. I think I am ready for a bit of a change!

I mean, I grew up in the West Country, lived in London for the past few years, just left as we couldn't afford it anymore, and am in a smaller town and renovating a house. Does that make me one such Londoner? What am I supposed to do, not leave London and just accept I'll not be able to afford a home? Or but don't dare renovate my new property?

To find a born and bred Londoner in London is rare.... we've all been priced out.

People have said that I’m the first born and bred Londoner they have met but there are lots of us, pretty much all my friends are as we met at school.

Bath

Were you born in Brighton?

Ag Brighton
it is quite a strange place, though, isn’t it?

Also plenty of Londoners aren’t rich, there used to be loads of social housing in London. DHs family is from Hackney, now that has really changed!

The thing is, this is EXACTLY how us Londoners feel. I feel so sad knowing my children don’t have a cats chance in hell of being able to afford to stay where they have lived all their lives. they will be one of these Londoners moving elsewhere because what choice do they have? I assume you will also be encouraging your children to go where they can afford too because we just want to see our families thrive, surely? It’s not their fault that they’re priced out and it’s not exactly what they want either.

I used to love Brighton, but I rarely visit now. The only reason I visit at all is to see my late DP's DGD, and very occasionally for a meal or a work thing.

It really has turned into a bit of a shithole. It's an odd mix of deprivation and performative "cool" hipsterism.

To be honest most people move because they are priced out. I think houses on the whole are disgustingly expensive.

Bristol is crazy and that's in the rough areas. I dont blame people from London as Its even more expensive there.

One area will now just be for students and thats pushing residents away so it's not just Brighton trust me It's not the same place I grew up in.

Well, as a Londoner, I’d never move out to a crappy country/seaside area 🤷‍♀️

Four hundred quid of student loan Tanglewood from GAK on the way down from the station, natch.

@CrushedOrange I work in music but with 'the more mature' end of the market and tons of people I know in the business live in Hastings, st Leonard's, Rye, Eastbourne, bexhill etc-

Maybe your definition of 'what there is to do' might need a shift - these guys all appear to have plenty going on- maybe it's less obvious if you aren't living there

In the same way that Homo sapiens drove Neanderthals to the edges of the world and eventually extinction, Londoners are driving out the inferior provincials. It is purely Darwinism in action.

You can't fight evolution

It's awful.

I grew up in London but have moved around. Everywhere I go anyone who dares move from the Southeast is practically hated for not staying in their home town and supposedly ruining wherever they’ve gone. The bigotry is extraordinary.
I couldn’t afford to go back to London and certainly couldn’t afford Brighton either. That’s freedom of movement and life.

Grow a new community?
As someone who lives in Hastings, we have plenty of community! It may not ‘match up’ for you, but it sure does for a lot of people.
How utterly patronizing

so you can move on and choose where you want to live, but no one else?