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To not like nicknames as full names?

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newuser9632794 · 18/05/2024 01:17

Some (secondary school aged) children in my family have nicknames as full names and as they grow older I feel the names suiting them less and less.

Some of the names,

Melly
Stevie
Bobby
Ali
Ricky

AIBU to think that naming children nicknames doesn't age well and that full names on the birth certificates are more fitting?

OP posts:
Zanatdy · 18/05/2024 07:02

I prefer longer names for BC’s personally, though I don’t shorten any of my children’s names bar the eldest and that was a cutesy Nick name that he outgrew (his godmother still calls him that). He goes by mid middle name now as he doesn’t like that some people can’t pronounce the NH sound. I call him by his birth name and so does other family as he’s never asked us not too, and I always refer to him as a nickname that came from DS2 not being able to pronounce his name, ds2 and dd still call him that name. Younger two names don’t shorten naturally

Withswitch · 18/05/2024 07:05

Melly = Melanie

AffableApple · 18/05/2024 07:09

SwingTheMonkey · 18/05/2024 06:57

Or Harry…

Or Harriet (diminutive of Henrietta)

Evaka · 18/05/2024 07:18

FarmGirl78 · 18/05/2024 02:06

I was always taught that you should have a full name which will sound decent being read out in court. If you're a barrister it will make you sound like you deserve to be in such a position. If you're the criminal it will make you sound like you don't deserve to be in such a position.

Full names don't ever have to be used in everyday life. But they're good to have.

Decent according to whom?

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 18/05/2024 07:22

FarmGirl78 · 18/05/2024 02:06

I was always taught that you should have a full name which will sound decent being read out in court. If you're a barrister it will make you sound like you deserve to be in such a position. If you're the criminal it will make you sound like you don't deserve to be in such a position.

Full names don't ever have to be used in everyday life. But they're good to have.

What a weird thing to be taught, what kind of school and in what lesson was that covered and why would it need to be taught repeatedly?

FarmGirl78 · 18/05/2024 07:29

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 18/05/2024 07:22

What a weird thing to be taught, what kind of school and in what lesson was that covered and why would it need to be taught repeatedly?

I never mentioned school. All the best learning is done outside the classroom.

Takeoutyourhen · 18/05/2024 07:57

I like a name that can be used in different ways that the individual sees fit throughout stages of their life: baby, primary school, secondary and beyond, adulthood, elderly…
If someone didn’t like being called Teddy, they’d perhaps opt for a middle name (and risk upsetting their parents!)

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 18/05/2024 08:01

FarmGirl78 · 18/05/2024 07:29

I never mentioned school. All the best learning is done outside the classroom.

Where was this lesson taught repeatedly then? Do you come from a family heavily invested in the court system?

I think I've lived a pretty varied live but no one has ever said this to me

FarmGirl78 · 18/05/2024 08:11

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 18/05/2024 08:01

Where was this lesson taught repeatedly then? Do you come from a family heavily invested in the court system?

I think I've lived a pretty varied live but no one has ever said this to me

Who mentioned family? 🤣🤣 You seem to have this image that I was sat down and made to repeat it over again until I could pass a test in it...."Now what's our Family moto?" 🤣🤣

The best learning is done in pubs, in chats with friends, with random people on buses, in church, in waiting rooms, mixing with the great and varied general public. And once you've heard the same thing 3 times from different folk, then in my book that's "I was always taught".

🙄🙄

FuckTheClubUp · 18/05/2024 08:16

Does it really matter?

SamanthaVimes · 18/05/2024 08:22

Tukmgru · 18/05/2024 06:46

I know it’s not on there but there are 500 kids called Teddy in every play group I go to and I wince every time I hear it. I can only imagine that many a Teddy will go by Ed when they’re older to escape the cutesiness and be taken seriously.

I have a Teddy, but his real name is Edward (which he does get called occasionally). I just couldn’t picture a 50 year old CEO called Teddy so we wanted him to have a “proper” name even though Teddy suits him as a little toddler.

ThatPithyMaker · 18/05/2024 08:31

I think it's nice to have a proper name and a diminutive for friends and family.
I use my full 4 syllable name for work, doctors etc, my friends and family. It has never cause an issue and it was my plan yo fo the same for my child.
When it came to naming my child I gave him a one syllable diminutive of a more traditional name as I am not a fan of the full version.
He is Jake not Jacob. I knew I would never use Jacob and to me it no longer sounds like the same name.

Tanaria · 18/05/2024 08:36

My name is the short form of a name and, as a child, I hated it. The long form of my name is beautiful, regal. People would always presume that what I was called wasn't my actual name. My mother also had the added grandiose idea of changing the spelling, so that I spent most of my childhood correcting people on my name. I resented the fact I could never find merchandise bearing my name.

I then moved to the UK and the short form that is my name is far more common here, albeit still spelled (and pronounced) differently. It still bothers me, but less so now that people don't automatically assume that I am called something else. However, it has presented itself as an issue in some official documents where, time and time again, I needed to expend extra time and energy to get my name corrected.

Names are important, no matter what people like to believe. They can be an inconvenience if they are very uncommon, or if people presume they are a short version of a name. For my own children (or at least the one where the chosen name could have been an issue), the full name goes on the birth certificate, but the shortened version is used in everyday life. They also have middle names if they grow to dislike their given names and want to choose those instead.

yellowsmileyface · 18/05/2024 08:42

labracadabras · 18/05/2024 07:01

My sibling called their daughter Kate, every date she is asked what is it short for, what’s your proper name, is that with a C or a K etc

but I guess it’s a conversation starter

I find it hard to believe it's a daily occurrence for her to be quizzed on her name. I've met many Kates and not once thought to ask them what their "proper" name is, nor have I observed this happen.

There are plenty of diminutives that I think work perfectly well as standalone names, such as Alex, Mike, Harry, Sam, Pete, etc. In fact a friend of mine is called Sam, it suits him and he has a very respectable job so it obviously hasn't caused him too much of a hinderance in life.

x2boys · 18/05/2024 08:50

SantaBarbaraMonica · 18/05/2024 06:40

They’re just names.

My first kid I put the full name on birth cert and the hassle it causes is unreal. Booking flights. Registered name at dr.’s etc. Regret doing it.

How's it a Hassle ,?My son has a full name on the birth certificate say " Jonathan" but goes by '"Jon," ,its no Hassle he knows what his full name is and his everyday name is
I personally prefer the full name and diminutive for every day use but don't really care what others do.

Yummymummy2020 · 18/05/2024 08:53

I agree with the poster that said many names in this generation are shortened anyway so in terms of jobs, there will be a bunch of them and it won’t stand out as unusual. It will probably be similar in courts ect too. The variety in names is so diverse now and it’s kind of an everyday thing really. I did some time working in a nursery and weather /season themed names seem to be popular. There are quite a few “winters” and there were three children called rain and one storm . Shortened names I wouldn’t really notice in either direction, especially for what of a better word more normal names like Tom or Pat ect, be it a court room or a brain surgeon. I think it’s probably a generational thing and the formality generated by the long version of a name probably won’t be noticed as much as time goes on with the younger generations.

TheKeatingFive · 18/05/2024 08:53

I can't imagine why you'd feel strongly enough to post a thread about it. You don't like these kinds of names - fine, don't use them. 🤷‍♀️

Personally I don't see anything wrong with any of your examples. I know several Ali's and a Ricky in accounting and consulting - no one has ever batted an eyelid

Mouthfulofquiz · 18/05/2024 08:54

I am inclined to agree with you OP, but I guess there is nothing stopping a man called Bobby from choosing to go by Robert (as a nickname?!)
I don’t think people think past the toddler stage when choosing names sometimes.

YorkNew · 18/05/2024 08:54

Ronnie and Reggie spring to mind.

HelloDenise · 18/05/2024 08:58

Basilsage · 18/05/2024 07:11

Edited

But he's called Melvin isn't he?

Greenlittecat · 18/05/2024 08:59

FarmGirl78 · 18/05/2024 08:11

Who mentioned family? 🤣🤣 You seem to have this image that I was sat down and made to repeat it over again until I could pass a test in it...."Now what's our Family moto?" 🤣🤣

The best learning is done in pubs, in chats with friends, with random people on buses, in church, in waiting rooms, mixing with the great and varied general public. And once you've heard the same thing 3 times from different folk, then in my book that's "I was always taught".

🙄🙄

What? I think this is the weirdest thing I've ever read on here.

chocolateanddietcoke · 18/05/2024 09:00

newuser9632794 · 18/05/2024 02:30

I agree @FarmGirl78 @DramaAlpaca

It just seems to be so restrictive also.
Melly is very "cutesy"
Bobby would be much better as Robert and then they have so much more room to pick a nickname should they wish.

I'm imagining when they're older and applying for something. What is your name? "Ricky", what's your full name? "That is my full name"

Obviously some traditional "nicknames" have now become common as first names eg David (although I still prefer Dave)

Get a grip.

There's nothing unprofessional about the name Bobby.

They're not your children so not sure why it's any of your business.

My son is Tom, not Thomas. I'm not sure that's what will hold him back in life 😂😂😂😂

Greenlittecat · 18/05/2024 09:01

SamanthaVimes · 18/05/2024 08:22

I have a Teddy, but his real name is Edward (which he does get called occasionally). I just couldn’t picture a 50 year old CEO called Teddy so we wanted him to have a “proper” name even though Teddy suits him as a little toddler.

Haha exactly the same here! It's nice to have the option but I know a few Teddy's as an adult and my brother is 20 and he knows loads!

I think in 30 years time there will be plenty of CEO (or dictators going by my toddler) Teddy's 🙂

TheGoogleMum · 18/05/2024 09:03

I prefer using the full version of a name on BC and just calling the child by preferred nickname. Gives the child more options when they're older of what they prefer to be called. DS has a name like this (think like Christoper as legal name, but we call him Topher). It is strange to me when medical professionals for example assume baby goes by other other shortening (e.g Chris). I don't mind it exactly it just sounds strange to me to hear the other shortening even though it's more common.

Despite my feelings on this, I think some nicknames have become so popular they do become names in their own right. For example Theo is huge but hardly any are Theodore. I know a few Kates who are not Catherine's and that doesn't seem strange to me, Kate feels like a proper name on its own.

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