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office wear

245 replies

Flute56 · 15/05/2024 22:41

I work in an office and the majority of the peole wear casual and by that I mean jeans and t shirts and trainers. I always dress smart for work. Some who have tatoos wear short sleeves and show huge tattoos down each arm. I do not think that is appropriate for the office. I really wish i worked for a company who has a strict dress code wehre the women have to wear smart trousers and jackets and dresses and skirts and the men have to wear shirts and trousers and maybe a suit. I could not go to work looking sloppy even if there is no dress code

OP posts:
Pickingmyselfup · 17/05/2024 09:10

I'm really glad places are moving away from the stuffy uptight dress code.

I don't work in an office, I'm customer facing but I turned up yesterday in cargo trousers and biker boots with my tattoo on show not to mention my multiple ear piercings...(I kept the nipple ones under wraps though, don't worry) ! I also had purple hair over Christmas which believe it or not had no impact on my ability to make coffee and serve food.

I think people should be presentable so no cropped tops, ripped jeans or obvious cleavage, otherwise anything goes.

If a company wants to have a strict dress code then that's up to them but I would try and avoid working for them. I've done my time in uptight environments and I much prefer the more casual approach to service and people. You are free to move to such a company if you feel so strongly about it too although nothing is stopping you dressing how you want.

frankentall · 17/05/2024 09:15

I'm not going to name the Company in Nottingham but it will be well known to anyone who has worked there. The Glassdoor reviews have made the comparison with North Korea and one called it a Potemkin Village.

reluctantbrit · 17/05/2024 09:26

Flute56 · 16/05/2024 00:09

i know people have tatoos but cover them up at work. I know someone who works in an office and she was told to wear very smart casual. No jeans no trainers. When I was flat sharing many years ago my flat mate worked in the insurance industry and had to wear tights no bare legs. Also if you go into the ctity of London and see what the men wear. Most of tem are in suits with cuflinks and ties. . In fact I walked past a bar after work and two men were wearing pin striped suits

Huh? I work in the City of London as a banker and there is everything most PP said. We have a mix of smart casual to full business dress in the office unless there is an event or we have board members coming.

When I walk to the tube after work I see all kind of dresscodes, yes it may include full blown three-piece suits but also plenty of jeans and trainers.

The city has changed a lot in the 20+ years I work there.

In our house DD is dressed the smartest, she is in 6th form and has to wear business smart.

KreedKafer · 17/05/2024 09:29

Flute56 · 17/05/2024 03:54

I have a jewish friend. She has to dress appropriately according to her religion. They cannot wear trousers and skirts have to be well below their knees. Does this make them any more religious. Someone posted on here about pearls and yes I own a string of pearls and wear them on the appropriate occasion, When you see Government Ministers they are always dressed very formally. The prime minister always wears a suit and a tie. The head teacher of a school always wears formal clothing. When would you ever see a head teacher turning up to run a school wearing jeans or leggings or a t shirt showing tatoos on arms,

You are now at the point where you actually just sound confused, disorientated and obsessive. You don’t seem able to understand any questions people are asking you, still less answer them.

Your friend’s choice of religious clothing has nothing to do with anyone’s work attire. It is irrelevant.

Your choice to own a string of pearls has nothing to do with anyone’s work attire. It is also irrelevant.

The clothing of a head teacher or a government minister has nothing to do with your colleagues’ work attire, because they aren’t head teachers or government ministers.

Once again, in simple words: you work in an office without a formal dress code. That means it is NOT inappropriate or unprofessional for your colleagues to wear jeans and t-shirts because they are following your employer’s directive to employees to wear whatever they like, as are you.

If you behave and communicate at work in the way you’re behaving and communicating here, I feel very sorry for the colleges around you because you give every impression of being rude, self-centred, unable to to hold a reasonable conversation and incapable of focusing on getting a job done because you’re too busy obsessing about something that your employer doesn’t seem important. You are the epitome of unprofessional, whether you wear a suit to work or not.

DoNotScrapeMyDataBishes · 17/05/2024 09:30

Head at my kids' school is currently rocking shorts and a football top today because he's doing an activity with some of the kids. He's also on first name terms with all the parents (there's none of these phonecalls about "It's Mr/Mrs X from school here" - the staff use first names dealing with the parents).

When I wear my work uniform it's usually just a polo shirt and whatever trousers are to hand - I have a tragic healthcare tunic but I rarely use it since uniforms are optional - quite often I go out to visit patients in a T-shirt and trousers - it's what makes my client base most comfortable.

SamW98 · 17/05/2024 09:35

Don’t be ridiculous. I worked in the City for 20+ years and even the old school investment banks relaxed the dress code in the 21st Century.

I then spent 10 years working for a huge wealth managers and the dress code was casual. I can assure you there was zero difference in the attitude and work ethic of anyone who wore jeans rather than two set and pearls.

I love the fact I’m no longer cramming my feet into shoes anymore and trainers for work are the norm.

Anyotherdude · 17/05/2024 09:47

I like dressing smartly to go to work, too, but I would never expect my colleagues to be forced to wear smart clothes if it makes them uncomfortable.
The problem with your OP is that you are denigrating your colleagues for wearing jeans, t-shirts and trainers, for having “huge tattoos” and for looking “sloppy”.
Unless you are all customer-facing, and there is a Company dress code that your colleagues are failing to adhere to, you do come across as quite judgemental. A superiority complex is, quite honestly, not a very nice attitude to have!

SamW98 · 17/05/2024 09:48

Also if you go into the ctity of London and see what the men wear. Most of tem are in suits with cuflinks and ties

Might be true 30 years ago but it’s certainly not the case now.

CleanShirt · 17/05/2024 09:59

frankentall · 17/05/2024 09:15

I'm not going to name the Company in Nottingham but it will be well known to anyone who has worked there. The Glassdoor reviews have made the comparison with North Korea and one called it a Potemkin Village.

Got curious and had a look... sound like OP's ideal workplace!

TheDandyLion · 17/05/2024 10:22

frankentall · 17/05/2024 09:15

I'm not going to name the Company in Nottingham but it will be well known to anyone who has worked there. The Glassdoor reviews have made the comparison with North Korea and one called it a Potemkin Village.

I turned down a job offer at this place because of the dress code. They wanted me in formal office wear whilst working from home.

PotatoPudding · 17/05/2024 10:33

TheDandyLion · 17/05/2024 10:22

I turned down a job offer at this place because of the dress code. They wanted me in formal office wear whilst working from home.

Jeeeeez! That’s just mental.

IHateLegDay · 17/05/2024 10:33

🙄

SamW98 · 17/05/2024 10:34

TheDandyLion · 17/05/2024 10:22

I turned down a job offer at this place because of the dress code. They wanted me in formal office wear whilst working from home.

Seriously wtf?? We only get dressed when we wfh if we have on camera teams meetings. I’m at home now working in my pjs and I love it

Got a meeting at 3 so I’ll shower and get dressed in my lunch break - that’s a perk of wfh imo

DaisyChain505 · 17/05/2024 10:49

This isn’t the 1950s. People no longer feel the need to spend the day feeling uncomfortable in heels or restrictive clothing etc just to please other people.

If someone is wearing a tshirt and heaven forbid has tattooed arms it doesn’t take away the fact that they are good at what they do.

xSideshowAuntSallyx · 17/05/2024 11:30

Flute56 · 16/05/2024 19:21

If you go to your local Sainsburys and see the managers they are always wearing a suit

It's standard issue uniform, the managers in Waitrose wear them (think they have the logo on them too), same with Tesco. It's probably horrible cheap and mass produced.

TheWayBackHome · 17/05/2024 11:30

Why do you think it bothers you so much OP?

Flute56 · 17/05/2024 11:41

I always wear smart stuff for work. I never wear jeans or trainers. I do wear flat shoes and sometimes wear shoes with a slight heel. I wear trouser suits with a smart blouse. I have very occasionally worn leggings but with a smart pair of flat shoes and a smart sweater. But mainly I wear a smart skirt or dress with tights.. In the summer when its too hot for tights I dont bother and have a smart pair of sandals. My colleague who has tatoos over both arms and shows them off with a sleeveless dress also has 4 inch false nails. When I first started work my mum saw me going to work and said why are you wearing trousers to the office and I said because I can and they are smart trousers. She then said to me women do not wear trousers to the office and neither should you. I took no notice and wore them aagain. That said, I have not been influenced by my mother, I am just one of these people who like all things smart.

Call me a snob if you like but thats how I am. I take a pride in my appearance.

Female members of the Royal Family look smart. You would never see the Princess of Wales with tatoos showing and she usually wears heels and everything she wears is teamed with a smart blazer. She looks gorgeous and her outfits are a sell out in shops

OP posts:
SocksAndTheCity · 17/05/2024 11:45

Lots of people take pride in their appearance; that doesn't mean having to dress like Margaret Thatcher.

Nobody cares what you're wearing. Why do you care what anybody else does?

DaisyChain505 · 17/05/2024 11:45

Your post scream that you’re small minded and judgemental. It doesn’t matter what a person wears, what piercings they have, what tattoos they have. They can still be an amazing professional person.

Beezknees · 17/05/2024 11:49

Flute56 · 17/05/2024 11:41

I always wear smart stuff for work. I never wear jeans or trainers. I do wear flat shoes and sometimes wear shoes with a slight heel. I wear trouser suits with a smart blouse. I have very occasionally worn leggings but with a smart pair of flat shoes and a smart sweater. But mainly I wear a smart skirt or dress with tights.. In the summer when its too hot for tights I dont bother and have a smart pair of sandals. My colleague who has tatoos over both arms and shows them off with a sleeveless dress also has 4 inch false nails. When I first started work my mum saw me going to work and said why are you wearing trousers to the office and I said because I can and they are smart trousers. She then said to me women do not wear trousers to the office and neither should you. I took no notice and wore them aagain. That said, I have not been influenced by my mother, I am just one of these people who like all things smart.

Call me a snob if you like but thats how I am. I take a pride in my appearance.

Female members of the Royal Family look smart. You would never see the Princess of Wales with tatoos showing and she usually wears heels and everything she wears is teamed with a smart blazer. She looks gorgeous and her outfits are a sell out in shops

I don't want to look like the princess of Wales though. Her style and life is not aspirational for me.

Greyheronsarethebest · 17/05/2024 11:52

Female members of the Royal Family look smart. You would never see the Princess of Wales with tatoos showing and she usually wears heels and everything she wears is teamed with a smart blazer. She looks gorgeous and her outfits are a sell out in shops

I think you lost your mind if you see them as style icons. Apart from that, they don't work. Having a few outings to wave at the peasants isn't work.

lotsofpeoplenametheirswords · 17/05/2024 11:55

Flute56 · 17/05/2024 11:41

I always wear smart stuff for work. I never wear jeans or trainers. I do wear flat shoes and sometimes wear shoes with a slight heel. I wear trouser suits with a smart blouse. I have very occasionally worn leggings but with a smart pair of flat shoes and a smart sweater. But mainly I wear a smart skirt or dress with tights.. In the summer when its too hot for tights I dont bother and have a smart pair of sandals. My colleague who has tatoos over both arms and shows them off with a sleeveless dress also has 4 inch false nails. When I first started work my mum saw me going to work and said why are you wearing trousers to the office and I said because I can and they are smart trousers. She then said to me women do not wear trousers to the office and neither should you. I took no notice and wore them aagain. That said, I have not been influenced by my mother, I am just one of these people who like all things smart.

Call me a snob if you like but thats how I am. I take a pride in my appearance.

Female members of the Royal Family look smart. You would never see the Princess of Wales with tatoos showing and she usually wears heels and everything she wears is teamed with a smart blazer. She looks gorgeous and her outfits are a sell out in shops

If you made a pound for each time you've written 'smart', you'd be able to afford smart and expensive work clothes!

loropianalover · 17/05/2024 11:56

If you’re finding that you look ‘sloppy’ in casual wear, maybe you need to work harder on your appearance.

frankentall · 17/05/2024 11:56

If I dress like the Princess Of Wales, will work lay on a limo to take me to and from my job and flunkies to open the doors for me? And will my job consist of having a bit of a chat to carefully selected cap-doffers? If so I might be prepared to make the sacrifice, but obviously only if work pays for the clothes too.

butterflywingss · 17/05/2024 12:02

I work in a very well known corporate organisation and a few years prior to COVID, people definitely dressed more serious. We had a casual Friday but that's pretty much a shirt and jeans maybe. However, post COVID, it's rare to find anyone in serious office attire. I go in pretty casual for work but not clothes I would wear out with friends and family. I agree to a certain point but at the same time unless you are facing senior stakeholders does it really matter what you wear (to an extent) ?