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TW child SA!! Name these people?

104 replies

Trulyme · 14/05/2024 19:52

Trigger warning!!
Child sexual abuse/rape.

I have been reading the following news article and it’s absolutely vile!

Any peadophilia is awful but it makes it feel somehow worse when a parent, who is meant to protect their child, is the one abusing them/facilitating it.

Fortunately, it sounds as though this little girl wasn’t physically harmed and they were caught before any physical contact took place.

But AIBU to think that the mum and her lover should be named and shamed?

I understand that the child’s identity needs protecting but these people are horrific and not being named is protecting them.

Why should they get to have an easy life and pretend to have been sent to prison for something else, when they are the awful human beings.

What to you think?
Should they be named and shamed or is it right that their names aren’t given to protect the child?

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/mum-planned-drug-daughter-aged-9282295?utm_source=cornwall_live_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Cornwall+Live+-+Truro+Live+Newsletter_newsletter&utm_content=&utm_term=&ruid=805772e0-79b8-496a-abb0-3f10b9b8f07c

Mum planned to drug daughter so her lover could rape her, court hears

The mother from Cornwall is currently on trial at Truro Crown Court where it was said she even sent her lover photos of the girl's private parts on Christmas Day

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/mum-planned-drug-daughter-aged-9282295?utm_source=cornwall_live_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Cornwall+Live+-+Truro+Live+Newsletter_newsletter&utm_content=&utm_term=&ruid=805772e0-79b8-496a-abb0-3f10b9b8f07c

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Quitelikeit · 14/05/2024 19:54

YABU

The child’s welfare needs protecting at all costs

HamBagelNoCheese · 14/05/2024 19:56

Naming the parent will lead to the identity of the child being public. The child has the right to anonymity.

Onedayatatime22 · 14/05/2024 19:56

Agreed @Quitelikeit - it's about the child.

soscarlet · 14/05/2024 19:56

Please engage your brain. If you name the mother you name the child. The child’s welfare and privacy is paramount. Naming the parent is not compatible with ensuring the child’s privacy.

NuffSaidSam · 14/05/2024 19:57

The child needs to be protected. As well as any other children in either family.

People locally and who know them will know what they've done. There's no value in you (or any member of the general public) knowing.

They'll still be put on the sex offenders register etc.

ghostyslovesheets · 14/05/2024 19:57

YABU the child deserves anonymity

GolfForBrains · 14/05/2024 19:58

Protecting the child is rightly more important than your desire to lynch the adults (and especially since they haven't even been convicted).

comedycentral · 14/05/2024 19:58

The child deserves anonymity, what a horrific thing to be associated with. I wonder why the male involved isn't named though.

TextureSeeker · 14/05/2024 19:59

As the parent of a child who was abused by a family I say absolutely not. Children in this situation do not need to deal with gossip on top of everything they are already going through. It's not about the abuser, it is about the child.

Trulyme · 14/05/2024 20:01

NuffSaidSam · 14/05/2024 19:57

The child needs to be protected. As well as any other children in either family.

People locally and who know them will know what they've done. There's no value in you (or any member of the general public) knowing.

They'll still be put on the sex offenders register etc.

But chances are they won’t though.

I’ve worked in prisons where many peados say they’re in for something completely different and hardly anyone on the inside or outside knows and it really frustrates me that they get the protection like that.

If the locals do know, then people will know this child and their identity has been revealed anyway.

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effoffwind · 14/05/2024 20:02

That is horrific

I agree with all PP's - all that matters is that child

Those 2 pieces of shit deserve a special place in hell

NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/05/2024 20:02

You name the parent, you identify the child. Even you admit that - so why on earth would you still think that the child's right to not have all and sundry know what's been done to her is outweighed by your wish to be able to chuck things at the parent's door/point and judge from the safety of your laptop?

Trulyme · 14/05/2024 20:02

GolfForBrains · 14/05/2024 19:58

Protecting the child is rightly more important than your desire to lynch the adults (and especially since they haven't even been convicted).

No but they will be because there’s photo and text evidence.

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Trulyme · 14/05/2024 20:04

comedycentral · 14/05/2024 19:58

The child deserves anonymity, what a horrific thing to be associated with. I wonder why the male involved isn't named though.

Yes at the very least he should be named.

There was a musician who planned to rape a baby/young toddler and he was named.

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Sugarcoatedalmonds · 14/05/2024 20:04

Protecting the child should be the number 1 priority. I understand your anger towards them, but what good would knowing their names do?

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/05/2024 20:04

I’ve worked in prisons where many peados say they’re in for something completely different

If you've worked in prisons, I'm stunned you use the word 'peados'. Totally inappropriate.

Trulyme · 14/05/2024 20:06

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/05/2024 20:04

I’ve worked in prisons where many peados say they’re in for something completely different

If you've worked in prisons, I'm stunned you use the word 'peados'. Totally inappropriate.

Why is that inappropriate??

What is a more appropriate name for them??

I don’t care about being politically correct to people like that, especially when I’m not at work.
I’m not sure why you would either.

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Trulyme · 14/05/2024 20:09

Sugarcoatedalmonds · 14/05/2024 20:04

Protecting the child should be the number 1 priority. I understand your anger towards them, but what good would knowing their names do?

It wouldn’t for me personally, but I feel that it is unfair that they get hide behind this and get protection when they should be judged and live in fear.

This child’s life wasn’t ruined but it almost was and it frustrates me that by being anonymous they practically get away with it.

I do understand and feel for this child, which is why I made the thread to see how other posters felt.

It just seems so unfair.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/05/2024 20:09

Trulyme · 14/05/2024 20:04

Yes at the very least he should be named.

There was a musician who planned to rape a baby/young toddler and he was named.

That didn't identify the victims as it wasn't a family-type setup. Still awful for the parents to find their trust being abused. And it could be that he is also due to answer charges on other offences where releasing his name would mean that those trials could collapse on the grounds that the Jury were compromised by already knowing he's a disgusting piece of filth.

Same way big trials of groups of abusers were kept secret despite the efforts of pricks like Yaxley-Lennon/Robinson trying to create a false narrative/get photos - had the cunt succeeded, he could have been responsible for many offences going unpunished.

Lavender14 · 14/05/2024 20:10

You have to remember that this child will grow up to be a teen or adult who won't want this to be common knowledge so they can share their traumatic experience on their own terms in their own time to who they choose to share it with. It would be deeply unfair for you to take that away from them because you're angry and horrified at what they've done.

Lavender14 · 14/05/2024 20:11

They probably won't name the partner because it would essentially name the mum by association. They've obviously deemed that as not in the best interests of the child.

beAsensible1 · 14/05/2024 20:12

There’s no scenario where anything that could risk this childs anonymity should be revealed. Ever.

nothing the public wants matters. No victim should be subject to public spectacle just for braying adults who will be able to go on about their day.

so eventually classmates can google and harrass them.

Stop it.

Trulyme · 14/05/2024 20:13

Lavender14 · 14/05/2024 20:11

They probably won't name the partner because it would essentially name the mum by association. They've obviously deemed that as not in the best interests of the child.

Yes that is true and I guess why they’ve not named him.

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VestibuleVirgin · 14/05/2024 20:15

Firstly, the spelling is paedophille, not peadophile
Secondly, you seem the type of person who would sit knitting while the guillotine fell
Thirdly, if you really are a prison officer, you have a disgusting and judgemental attitude to those in your care. Yes, prisons are there to punish by depriving person of liberty. But they are also about rehabilitation so recidivism is lowered. Do you subscribe to that, because if not, you are in the wrong job.

All of this is not to saty I support the actions of such people, just disgusted by your attitude

PonyPatter44 · 14/05/2024 20:18

How would it be in the child's best interest for their assault to be made public knowledge? Give your head a wobble, you know it would be detrimental to the victim.

If you worked in prisons, you'd know that paedophiles sometimes do try to front out their offences or lie about them to other prisoners, but the STAFF all know their offence! You'd also know about the lunchtime bundle, when you have to move a R45 prisoner very quickly to a cell on a VP unit, because other prisoners have found out his offence.

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