To hate the vacuousness of some young girls nowadays?

[CarryOnCharon]

I find it so sad. 12 year olds obsessed by beauty brands, TikTok, doing their hair for school, fake tan, ridiculously short school skirts, it all seems so sad. And they are clones. Room in their heads only for brands

i know this is not all of them.

YANBU. It seems a sad way to live. No substance. All stress.

I agree. My TEN year old took me into boots the other day attempting to convince me to buy her some moisturiser that was about £25. I don’t even pay that for my own moisturiser. She said “everyone” is buying it.

Well my 12 year old isn’t allowed to fake tan etc .. parents can still parent 12 year olds!

There have always been vacuous young girls (and boys, and men, and women). Perhaps they’re more visible these days due to social media, but they’re really nothing new.

I sort of think YABU because girls (and boys) were always this way.

SM makes it much worse though. Teenagers are tempted by Brazilian Bum Bum cream and other stuff.

Mum, is that you?

It's been over 30 years, you need to start getting over it 😁

Yes. I wouldn’t have lots of these things. But that’s what they do.

😂😂

I should add that I love makeup etc. But the focus on brands etc by the yoof makes me look deep

I was into boys and fashion at 12. I never thought of myself as vacuous.

I don't think my generation was any different other than different beauty standards.

Lots of grown adult men are endlessly obsessed with kicky ball and their dicks. But let’s pick on 12 year old girls eh?

But is it actually their fault they are swept along or could their parent do better are creating appropriate boundaries ?

I think you've got your rose tinted nostalgia glasses on if you think there wasn't this level of vacuousness 20/30 years ago. The pressures have changed with social media etc. But young girls were always pushing the limits of skirt length and trying all sorts of stupid stuff with hair and make up (sun-in anyone?!)

It doesn't sound all that different from when I was a teen in the 90's.
Thankfully social media wasn't a thing then but everything other than tik tok was going on with the girls at my school.
Every one of them that I'm still in touch with or have on Facebook seem to be doing just fine despite being somewhat vacuous as teens.

No. I was very into make up in the 80s. But it was about fun and experimenting, not brands and confirming

*conformity

Agreed

Yes it was.

I will happily admit I was like this as a teen 30 years go.
Skirt rolled up once I was out of my parents eye shot and make up and hair done.
It was fun! I had no money for big brands but the beauty industry wasn't as big or accessible as it is now.

Most other teen girls were the same, all fun, nothing wrong with it !

I have to say some of the most intelligent and academic women I know spent our childhood obsessed with sweet valley high and Cher from clueless.

Bloody hell we were exactly the same minus the social media back in the mid 90s. Perms, sun-in, collection 2000 (Blue Mascara)…if we had access to TikTok we would have been all over that like a rash. Now some of my friends are solicitors and run their own business’s…..this thread is quite judgmental.

Yip, it's horrible, I have a 12 year old exactly like this, she saves her pocket money/birthday money and buys expensive products that are "trending on tiktok" , all very well saying parent your child and don't allow make up and fake tan, which I mostly agree with, but when there's various special events in school and in her hobbies ,where literally everyone does fake tan and make up, then it's just not worth the arguments and tears , though I try to limit both to a very light covering.
Her friends mums are a lot more chilled about all this than me, which also makes it difficult.
She certainly has a huge supply of skin care, hair care, make up, all designer brands and all the girls in her class are the same, I've taken them shopping and the friends think nothing of spending £50+ on 1 product, much more than I'd be paying.

How do you know they are vacuous ? Maybe they like makeup and are highly intelligent ?

My mum is 81. She was asked to leave a country pub in 1962 for wearing a skirt that was “indecent”. OK she wasn’t 12 but honestly girls and short skirts - nothing new.

Depended a lot on your social group! Plenty of them in my school, if you had the wrong flavour body shop lip tint you were nothing

Mean Girls came out in 2004, Clueless in 1995. Both showed vacuous, brand-obsessed over-groomed teenage girls. And have you forgotten Paris Hilton already?