To hate the vacuousness of some young girls nowadays?

[CarryOnCharon]

I find it so sad. 12 year olds obsessed by beauty brands, TikTok, doing their hair for school, fake tan, ridiculously short school skirts, it all seems so sad. And they are clones. Room in their heads only for brands

i know this is not all of them.

My girls aren't like this at all.

Kicky ball? Patronising.

And I'm much more interested in football than make up.

Out of interest OP, do you have a 12 year old daughter??

I like both

Agreed

yes, but....what I really like is when I go to the gym, there are a lot of young women weight training, doing it for themselves, with no aggravation from the men either.
When I was their age women just didn't do this. I find it very encouraging

Really not. Now the brands they want are premium expensive. And also things like “peach fuzz removers”

Actually, yes, this trend is great

When I was young skinny was god. I love the fit trend

Ach I dunno, I remember being 12 and plastering on foundation on the school bus so my mum didn’t know I was wearing it to school. They’re just better at it now because of YouTube etc. Madness that they can get the money to be obsessed with brands though when we used to save up for Rimmel and Collection 2000.

So funny how it always seems that the things that are considered silly and vacuous and shallow are hobbies and interests popular with girls.
So weird, that.

Exhibit A:

Supporting a football team and getting angry, sad, overexcited over things that happen with that team
= normal

Being a fan of a pop singer or band and getting angry, sad, overexcited over things that happen with them
= silly

I was 12 in 1986 and wore the trifecta of purple mascara, eye liner, and eye shadow. I had to lie down to zip my jeans up. Our jeans had zips at the ankle so we could get them over our heels.

I had a fringe that was inches high and an unhealthy relationship with aerosol hair spray. I moped endlessly to Depeche Mode (that may have come later).

I am now an enormously sensible grown up. I can’t even manage Botox.

the kids will be fine. Lucky them to have stretchy jeans, they can breathe.

It is judgemental

I find it depressing

I did the makeup. But was able to comprehend information other than that imparted by TikTok

When I was 13 I was obsessed with very short ra ra skirts, fishnet tights and elbow length gloves. Orange foundation, streaks of pink blusher and wet look lip gloss. Hair fried with sun in and back combed. Evenings were spent reading about how to 'snog that hunky guy' in age inappropriate teen magazines. Im sure 'vacuous' would have been amongst the least offensive judgements made about me at the time.
Yet somehow alongside that, I managed to do enough at school to stay in top sets and eventually went to uni with good grades. I marched with the miners, knitted blankets for people in Ethiopia and helped out at the local care home. You can't judge a girl by the shallow parts you see. You couldn't then and you shouldn't now.

Yanbu. It's awful! What's with the really short skirts? I guess maybe we did that too 😶but the fucking skincare and tiktok obsession...so unhealthy. Social media is wrecking young teens mental health(some of them)

No, they are not clones, and have plenty going on inside their heads besides brands

But the girls I’m talking about wouldn’t recognise a political movement if it hit them between the eyes. Unless TikTok told them

My 12 year old daughter is into her skincare brands and really looks after her skin (a lot of that is my influence).

How does that make her vacuous? She’s a clever, well travelled girl (top set at school) - her love of skin care brands is one aspect of her personality. She’s also a musician and talented writer….. it’s not as depressing as you think it is.

i know this is not all of them.

Eh? Brazilian Bumbum Cream is just body lotion.

I think it’s always been this way to some degree, particularly with fashion, hairstyles, but I think the difference is that they are younger now when it starts.

Remember the ‘Rachael cut’ hairstyle? Lots of teenage girls had that style from the hairdressers, but not at 12. Maybe 15/16.

We liked fake tan back then but agian were were 15/16 not 12.

Agree with pp that it's nothing new.

I'm 41 and at 13 was obsessed with skincare (Clinique specifically and I remember a teacher being was shocked when she saw my expensive Clinique eye cream on a school trip 😂), I spent ages doing my hair every morning and although fake tan wasn't my bag at time I remember applying copious amounts of glitter. There was also certainly a very short skirt.

I doubt the kids today are any more vacuous than I was in those days (or any girls any time before) but I still managed to grow up into a well rounded woman, as most of them will.

WTF!? She needs to do nothing to her skin except wash it. She's 12! Oh well you do you😑

And 100% this.

Well if the "girls your talking about" are that thick, they STILL aren't unique to this generation. There were always idiots. In the 90s they would "only know a political movement" if it was in J17!