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If you own a ranger rover

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Yesfrepp · 12/05/2024 21:52

Is it on finance? Just wondering how many people actually buy then outright? They are my dream car and although I could finance a monthly payment I could never buy one outright! How much do you have to earn for that?! I’m on 89k for context

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LondonQueen · 13/05/2024 07:24

I've had two now, the first I unfortunately crashed and it was written off. I then had a different SUV for a while before buying my current one, a Range Rover Sport. It's not quite the same as my original full size Range Rover but it's gorgeous to look at and not quite as bad on fuel. However, the insurance is astronomical, with several providers refusing to give a quote at all, I live in an area with cheap insurance and very low crime.

blue345 · 13/05/2024 07:25

I bought my RR Sport second hand in cash (about 3 years old). It was really nice to drive and I miss all the little things now I have a BMW (one touch power boot, side cameras, self closing doors if you leave them ajar, very comfortable seats, quick acceleration, brilliant in the snow, the wade sensor less useful...) but...

They break constantly. Mine spent three months in the garage each year for two of the years (over multiple visits). As a result you have to buy the £100 plus a month warranty. Everyone else's RRs also break constantly so it's rare to get it seen in less than 6 weeks.

Many of the RR garages have appalling customer service. They won't return calls and they try to charge you the £600-800 diagnostic fee even if they find a warranty covered fault (the warranty people are great and tell you they'll cover it but you have to argue with the garage for ages).

I recently sold mine but I spent so long sitting in the garage that I was tempted to speak to the people in the shiny showroom and tell them not to do it. It will be the nicest car I ever own but never again.

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/05/2024 07:32

IsadoraQuill · 12/05/2024 22:19

They're the new BMW drivers. Every single one is driven by an utter bellend with no regard for other road users.

And no, before you Range Rovers jump on me. This isn't me speaking out of jealousy. We have a car worth a lot more than a Range Rover. I genuinely have noticed the sheer fuckery these wankers get up to.

I live in a very rural area and there are loads of them around me.

These silly farmers trying to feed and manage the country. What are they thinking of.....

Iheartmysmart · 13/05/2024 07:37

There’s occasionally a stolen one in the communal car park of my block of flats so I can let you know when the next one arrives OP. They’re usually there for a month or so then the registration number miraculously changes and they have a new MOT without going anywhere near a test centre. Bloody clever cars.

But one of my relatives is a mechanic and used to work for Range Rover. He said the cars are amongst the most unreliable he’s ever worked on the RR customer service is appalling.

Allfur · 13/05/2024 07:39

I hope you don't live in an urban area op

SallySilly · 13/05/2024 07:40

I drive a Discovery. Owned outright. I need 7 seats. Normal insurance costs for the size of the car. I'm not an arsehole ✌🏻

Howmanycatsistoomany · 13/05/2024 07:40

I have an older Sport Autobiography, bought outright. When it's not broken (which is often and almost always an issue with the electrics) it drives and tows horse trailer beautifully.

Maneandfeathers · 13/05/2024 07:42

I had a Land Rover which spent most of its time broken or waiting to be repaired. Normal garages wouldn’t touch it so it had to go to a specialist every time which never ever cost less than £1k hence why I no longer own it.

Despite that I loved it so much, hate driving the one I have now compared to that.

thanKyouaIMee · 13/05/2024 07:42

We loved ours! It was the most comfortable car ever for long journeys, we've never had anything as perfect for us for the long trips. Never broke down or had any issues, saved us in a few tricky to navigate winter scenarios and could fit an absolute village in the boot which was fab. Would like to go back to having one again at some point, the 90s are a contender though I love the look.

We financed it - the APR on the finance was lower than the interest rate on our savings, it makes no sense to pay in full in that scenario. We always finance cars!

Glitterybee · 13/05/2024 07:44

Ignore the horror stories… I drive one and love it.

I put down a big deposit and bridged the gap with a loan. £220 a month, will own outright in a few years.

BC2603 · 13/05/2024 07:51

It’s a lovely car. I love them but the 5 friends I have with newer ones have all spent as much time at the garage as they have enjoying it. That and the high levels of theft have put me off a bit. I don’t have enough time to make the mechanics a 2nd home 🤣

augustusglupe · 13/05/2024 07:55

supercalafragilisticexpealidocious · 12/05/2024 22:06

I must live in an area with a very high proportion of tossers because that sort of behaviour isn't specific to Range Rover owners round here. I challenged a woman parked in a baby and child bay the other day as I unloaded my two toddlers and massive bump from the car across the car park and was told she had kids "somewhere in the world" 🙄

Same here. Porsche, Bentleys, all parked mainly at the drop off points, right outside our local big M&S/Tesco.
It’s so brazen, they just don’t care.

Deathbyfluffy · 13/05/2024 08:03

Yesfrepp · 12/05/2024 21:56

@Duvetdweller 😂😂 but they look glorious!

That’s definitely not a good reason to buy one of the most unreliable cars ever made 😅
They’re absolutely terrible to own sadly

Newbutoldfather · 13/05/2024 08:04

Range Rovers just aren’t appropriate in large cities. And those who buy them seem to neither be good at driving them nor considerate (massive generalisation and of course there are exceptions).

And then the owners get upset when they need to squeeze into the driver’s seat in car parks (because they don’t really fit!).

They are lovely cars in the right setting, though.

Londonrach1 · 13/05/2024 08:07

It spend most of its time in the garage being repaired. Can't imagine why anyone's dream car. My worse nightmare. Each to their own. It be finance mostly.

Deathbyfluffy · 13/05/2024 08:09

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/05/2024 07:32

I live in a very rural area and there are loads of them around me.

These silly farmers trying to feed and manage the country. What are they thinking of.....

They’ll be ‘proper’ Land Rovers and Range Rovers - not the Evoque etc which is just an imitation with all the unreliability of the real thing.

Menomeno · 13/05/2024 08:09

Our neighbours opposite had three, so I decided they must be drug dealers. DH said I was being a bitch.

Six months later they were raided and the man of the house is now on remand for drug dealing. The RRs are gone and Mrs Dealer now has a VW.

Devilshands · 13/05/2024 08:09

Insurance near me is about £10K PA and the only people who have them who own them outright are the ones with v. Old ones that are used in off roading aka farmers using the car for their actual purpose - not silly school run mums whose husband cannot satisfy them.

Why piss so much money down the drain on a car (because 80K is nothing when your car costs that bloody much) that constantly breaks down, is to big for the roads and when it’s not breaking down or you’re not driving down the wrong side of the road, is being stolen because it’s a cheap piece of shit that a two year old could hot wire.

Ginmonkeyagain · 13/05/2024 08:12

@Willyoujustbequiet I dunno, all of my farming relatives (including my dad) seem to manage to feed their animals without ever owning a range rover. They have these things call tractors you see.

Real farmers see range rovers as the domain of wannabes and idiots in brand new tweeds from the city. As any fule kno, proper rural people have tractors and a range of odd cars in inreasing states of decay!

Anyway I now libe in SE London to answer the OP, drug dealdrs - that is who can afford to buy a range rover outright in our area.

LameyJoliver · 13/05/2024 08:19

Probably irrelevant, but I just don't understand how people can pay what used to be a house price (and still is in some places) for a vehicle that gets you from A to B1 The most expensive car I have ever bought was £1000, and currently we have a car each, both of which cost us £500 - yes they're old (Dh's still has a tape deck !) but mine, in particular - 2001 - is still going and while it doesn't have anything fancy in it and sometimes is a little bumpy - is still going strong.

I understand that some people need to travel a lot over the year, but still £75 - 100k on a car? I love the look of disdain I get from wankpanzer owners as they overtake me or pull out in front, because they think I am irrelevant and unimportant, I just think 'well, I have £x extra a month than you and am still going in the same direction!
It baffles me

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/05/2024 08:21

Ginmonkeyagain · 13/05/2024 08:12

@Willyoujustbequiet I dunno, all of my farming relatives (including my dad) seem to manage to feed their animals without ever owning a range rover. They have these things call tractors you see.

Real farmers see range rovers as the domain of wannabes and idiots in brand new tweeds from the city. As any fule kno, proper rural people have tractors and a range of odd cars in inreasing states of decay!

Anyway I now libe in SE London to answer the OP, drug dealdrs - that is who can afford to buy a range rover outright in our area.

You don't take tractors up hills to manage stock. It would be impossible in many areas.

You don't speak for real farmers. Only the ones you know. Many real farmers around me would appear to disagree with you.

I didn't say new ones either.

BlankSt · 13/05/2024 08:21

I know you're talking about a new one but...

We've got an OLD (2006) range rover vogue - we bought it for camping, tip runs, driving in adverse weather (snow, floods), non local dog walks. It is lovely to drive - still looks great (prefer it to the newer models). Think it cost around the £12K mark when we got it a few years ago (no finance). Has costs a fair amount to maintain but nothing wild, so far - maybe £1.5-2K/year. Road tax expensive. Thinking of selling it as we don't camp any more but...

For every day driving we have a new Mercedes. On finance if the deal is better. Didn't start getting new cars until we had met other financial goals though and could pay outright if we wished. Earn more than you but not multiples. I wouldn't have a RR as a main car/new car (unless it was one of the smaller ones, but they don't appeal to me) - I also consider them far too expensive for our income bracket.

The people I know/know of around here who drive brand new RR are quite entitled - two always park in the loading/collecting bay at WR (these two definitely earn more than you). BIL/SIL have one but their household income will be low 7 figures not 6 (live in London - definite Chelsea tractor but with three Labradors and three children...) and whether they pay outright or on finance will be a matter of money management not affordability - I have no idea.

backfromouterspace · 13/05/2024 08:22

I must admit I do like the look of them, however we had a few of them in my old job (emergency services) -freelanders and discoveries. They were never out the garage. I warned a friend before he bought one, he bought it anyway and he got rid of it after he had drive back from Switzerland in limp mode. If you do get one then make sure you get the best AA cover because you will need it.

SaltyGod · 13/05/2024 08:23

Just to mix things up, the range rovers round here are all driven as well as any other car, and parked properly. The ones I know are bought outright, not on finance.

The cars / driver you need to watch out for here are white Audi drivers 😁

JacquesHarlow · 13/05/2024 08:26

Femme2804 · 12/05/2024 22:11

I love my range rover. I drove evoque now and next year gonna change for velar. My car insured just fine. I live in cambridge though not in london. So i dont know how hard to insured RR in london. I love my car, it was my dream car and iove it everyday. I’m with finance aswell only £250 per month. Not much. It is 2014 evoque. Bought as second hand car in 2015. So its pretty new when i bought it. I put big downpayment.

You don't own a Range Rover. You own an Evoque, which is the length of a hatchback.

The real Range Rover is the full size model (formerly known as "Vogue" for years since 1981) which is around 5.1 metres in length, and over two metres wide.

Jaguar Land Rover did a very clever thing to plaster the Range Rover badge over all these small silly models. Everyone now thinking they are driving 'the' Range Rover, when there can only really be one.

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