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I've been a dickhead. How can I fix?

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GroundToSwallowMeUp · 12/05/2024 21:15

At a party, I was talking to a lifelong friend of mine (let's call her Olivia) (her dad died recently - they were very close - he was only 60). Olivia is really struggling. All her worst traits have come out x 1000 (being bitchy and gossipy) - she has heart of gold but since losing her dad a couple of months ago - she spends most of her time complaning or bitching. Olivia is also v v pretty and glam and confident.

At the party - I introduce her to a new friend of mine (Sarah) who is so lovely. Sarah is the nicest woman in the world. Not v glam, v different lifestyle to my friend.

As Sarah was leaving - Olivia was taking the piss out of her - being what she thought was funny (she had a wine or 7) but was quite cruel. I didn't laugh along, I just moved conversation on quickly or might have said 'oh stop' but not too seriously. I certainly didn't have a go at Olivia.

I thought Sarah was miles away but possibly not. Sarah is now ignoring me. I've convinced she has heard.

I should have been stronger with Olivia and pulled her up. It was the awkwardness, the fact she's so volatile about her dad, I've known Olivia 20 years and Sarah only a matter of months - so guess my loyalty felt off or that it wasn't that serious

But now i feel awful. I've convinced Sarah has heard and she is the nicest, kindest woman.

What do I do? i've screwed up our friendship haven't i?

OP posts:
Somethingsnappy · 13/05/2024 15:08

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 13/05/2024 14:59

I don’t think the onus should be on Sarah to explain. The OP knows that things were said that were hurtful and knows she owes Sarah an apology. I don’t think it is right to put Sarah in the position of having to say “I heard Olivia say xxx and that you didn’t challenge it”.

Asking if she is ok is disingenuous. The apology needs to happen without Sarah explaining what needs to be apologised for.

I do agree. But the difficulty is that she doesn't know if Sarah overheard or not...

FuckOffTom · 13/05/2024 15:42

It’s shit but if I was Sarah and you apologised to me sincerely I would accept it and move on.

Tanyahawkes · 13/05/2024 17:39

I think if I was in Sarah’s shoes and had heard Olivia say that about me and op not say much, if op said “sorry you had to hear Olivia say that, it’s not a nice thing to say and I don’t agree with her, I didn’t know what to say, I’m sorry I didn’t say much” I would be telling op “ thanks for that hun, it’s not you that’s pissed me off, went a bit quiet as didn’t know if you agreed with her or not “

GroundToSwallowMeUp · 13/05/2024 20:32

Update

Sarah messaged me and she is fine. I think she strongly disliked Olivia but it is clear she didn't hear anything and she is being back to normal and apologised for silence

I do 100% deserve a lot of the comments on here and will be talking to Olivia separately and telling her I regret not saying something at the time.

Thanks for the advice, even if some of it was hard to take.

OP posts:
Idontjetwashthefucker · 13/05/2024 20:37

Did she explain her silence?

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 13/05/2024 20:40

Oh that's a relief. I'd be having as little as possible to do with Olivia in future. She just sounds not very nice at all.

AtrociousCircumstance · 13/05/2024 21:02

Why was she silent if she didn’t hear - because of the general toxic vibe caused by Olivia?

Tanyahawkes · 13/05/2024 21:16

GroundToSwallowMeUp · 13/05/2024 20:32

Update

Sarah messaged me and she is fine. I think she strongly disliked Olivia but it is clear she didn't hear anything and she is being back to normal and apologised for silence

I do 100% deserve a lot of the comments on here and will be talking to Olivia separately and telling her I regret not saying something at the time.

Thanks for the advice, even if some of it was hard to take.

Glad it has turned out good between Sarah and yourself

NeedToChangeName · 14/05/2024 10:32

If Sarah didn't hear Olivia's nasty comments, you may get away with this

Unless Sarah is on MN and recognises this story

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