To be angry so many girls schools are going Co-Ed?

[FaeryRing]

Yet again it’s been proven girls do better in single sex schools (I have a son as well as a daughter so please don’t think I’m ’hating on boys’).

https://amp.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/may/12/girls-do-better-in-exams-at-all-girls-schools-than-mixed-research-finds

In my hometown growing up there were 4 girls schools. 1 grammar, 1 private, and 2 regular secondaries, meaning pretty much all parents regardless of background had access to single sex education for their daughters if they wanted it.

2 have announced their plans to go Co-Ed, with 1 already having done so, leaving just 1 (the grammar, so working class girls will be inherently disadvantaged). This seems to be a pattern across the country.

AIBU to be angry this is happening? Can’t girls have anything to themselves?

There were thankfully no major issues as I have seen described here (upskirting etc) at my kids’ school. We were clearly lucky.

But of course causal sexism existed. One great thing was that boys called out other boys or teachers for sexist comments. My daughter and her friends really liked to see this happen.

The most depressing part of this thread is the determination of some to prevent girls from accessing a full and unfettered education, it makes me wonder what their motivations are. Certainly nothing positive.

I see girls schools producing confident, intelligent and capable young women that have developed their own identity and ideas. Some girls will have the opportunity to achieve this in co ed but many won’t.

This thread seems to have gone a bit nuts. How has a conversation about schools turned into a conversation about men invading women's spaces?

That’s rather the point of the OP isn’t it.

Nobody is 'trying to prevent girls accessing a full education' though, merely pointing out that this can be also obtained in a CoEd school in the majority of cases. There are barriers to education in SS and in CoEd schools, none of them give a 100% guarantee.

@FaeryRing did you want to discuss SS girls education or men invading women's spaces in general? @Mirabai seems insure and I don't want to reply on your behalf.

No idea.
I've tagged OP so she can comment on the tangent some folk are determined to take.

There was a good discussion going about the benefits of single sex education.

But it was drowned out by the posters whining you’re saying all boys are bad.

There is definitely one poster in particular who has been wanging on and on about boys for the entire thread, way over and above anyone else.

Here’s a clue from the OP:

Can’t girls have anything to themselves?

Maybe we've been lucky too, or maybe some posters have tried to make isolated (but undeniably horrible) cases seem the 'norm'.

Let her reply.

You mean there was a one sided discussion and then some other posters offered a different perspective? That's how debate works, normally at least.
There's definitely one poster determined to turn the debate to fill their agenda....that's blatantly obvious, despite her attempts to throw accusations at anyone who dare disagree.

There was a discussion of the thread title and then some posters came along and wanted to talk about how unfairly boys are maligned instead.

Do you understand how debate works? It seems not.

Good luck with that.

Do you honestly think my contributions have been ‘shouting down’ others? Do you not want other opinions? I have no particular bias (though I actively chose co-ed I guess) and I don’t dislike girls’ schools and am fine with there being a choice, but wanted to just give another view.

Should that not happen on a thread like this do you think?

No I don’t, could you explain? That would be so helpful.

I understand how debate works of women’s issues.

You're fine I think.
It's seemingly just me who isn't allowed to offer a counter argument.
I'm bowing out now anyway because one can only take being called a man so many times.....😂

I have started more than one thread on the subject. I’ve discussed it ad nauseam, sometimes. Despite this I won’t stop, it is something I’m serious about.

It is particularly relevant here, which is why I brought it up. The OP was opining the fact that there are fewer and fewer all girls school choices. And so having less space for girls at schools as in life in general, is a parallel.

I really didn’t think you came across as a man at all. That’s people’s perceptions. Who knows, maybe I am being thought of as a man too. Odd.

I can’t remember yours to be fair.

In the state system everybody get the same curriculum up to Alevel. You don’t get anything different at an all girls SS. If anything we found the choice then at Alevel rather narrow, part of the reason for the exodus to the local co ed at that point .

Why on earth wouldn’t the good and outstanding state schools up and down the country,(86%) and the majority co Ed,be able to produce confident, intelligent and capable young women? Are you saying all the girls from these schools moving on to top unis and apprenticeships aren’t confident, intelligent or capable?

Ha good to know how memorable I am ;-)

Not really. You don’t need single sex schools, the majority don’t want it and there isn’t the money to produce them for the tiny minority who want a bespoke education just for them.

Girls spaces in brownies and changing rooms are entirely different. Pretty ridiculous that you’re trying to merge the two.

I'm not sure exactly how wide OP wanted to make the discussion, hence me asking her.
If folk are not careful this thread will reach it's limit with slurs, insults and one word comments.