To be angry so many girls schools are going Co-Ed?

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Yet again it’s been proven girls do better in single sex schools (I have a son as well as a daughter so please don’t think I’m ’hating on boys’).

https://amp.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/may/12/girls-do-better-in-exams-at-all-girls-schools-than-mixed-research-finds

In my hometown growing up there were 4 girls schools. 1 grammar, 1 private, and 2 regular secondaries, meaning pretty much all parents regardless of background had access to single sex education for their daughters if they wanted it.

2 have announced their plans to go Co-Ed, with 1 already having done so, leaving just 1 (the grammar, so working class girls will be inherently disadvantaged). This seems to be a pattern across the country.

AIBU to be angry this is happening? Can’t girls have anything to themselves?

Go and tell me how let me guess you can’t!

I'm in Ireland, where single-sex schools are totally normal.

I went to a single-sex (female) school, and loved it. I'm now working in a senior STEM role.
There were no issues with meeting boys - everyone had brothers/cousins at neighbouring boys schools. We'd meet at parties, hobbies, etc. Also the boys and girls schools twinned for some subjects like drama. So no issues in university, and being in a class with boys for the first time.

My niece has just finished her schooling in a single-sex school, and again, she and all her friends loved it. They could go into school not caring what they looked like, spot cream on, etc. She's also started uni studying a STEM subject.

I have a young daughter and planned to send her to an all-girls secondary school (I don't mind if primary is mixed-sex), but last week the school announced it is going co-ed. :(

Agree!

Disagree! Especially when - as usual - it’s at the expense of girls.

@Mirabai I agree that pupils should be exposed to a whole range of diverse subjects, however when it comes to further study/qualifications pursuing subjects that you enjoy is actually key! I naturally chose a couple of STEM subjects because they fascinated me, not because of any 'girls in STEM' promotions or the like. We shouldn't be encouraging people to do subjects they don't actually enjoy. As it is there are quite a lot of females in some STEM subjects, less in others, that's ok as long as the option was open to them to start with.

Single sex is becoming less popular in Ireland as well. Many parents no longer want single sex education. I know many people who went to single sex schools. Around 80% of those have said they wouldn’t choose single sex for their own children. That’s why so many are closing. Despite the perceived benefits, the fact is that demand is declining which means more schools will turn co-Ed.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/education/2024/04/30/most-students-in-single-sex-schools-want-mixed-enrolment/#:~:text=No%20new%20single%2Dsex%20school,schools%20since%20the%20early%201970s.

https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2024/0122/1427963-education-ireland/

You need to explain this further?
You disagree that it's important to be able to get on with annoying people?
Everyone has to do this at some point.
Why are you assuming this will automatically be 'at the expense of girls'?
Learning how to get on with folk has been vital in all of my jobs (abd in life in general).

Why are you assuming again?
Do you always assume superiority when it's not there?
It's fairly simple.
The education system as a whole generally favours how girls learn (Google is your friend if you don't believe me).

I always find it interesting that there are often STEM events put on purely for girls. Why aren’t there corresponding arts events for boys? Personally, I don’t agree with segregating them at all and would encourage both sexes to pursue what they want to. My daughter has been invited to several girl only STEM events and is always slightly puzzled why there are no boys.

Again, you disagreeing doesn't mean I have 'nothing to contribute'.
Did you expect only agreement with your particular stance, or nobody to question your claims?

Expressing a different view is 'clearly trolling'?
I haven't remotely suggested the majority of the things you've written there either.
I can honestly say I am thankful I'm not passing on some of the irrationally I'm witnessing on this thread.

Agreed.
Apparently we're anti-feminist to point this out though.
Girls should have opportunities.
Boys should have opportunities.

Absolutely agree. Girls and boys should have exactly the same opportunities. Surely that’s the whole point of equality? Assessments should be based purely on merit. No gender should be given priority one way or another.

What is irrational is posting over 5 times in 15 minutes on a thread about girls when you have a son and all you are doing is telling everyone "but boys" and that anyone who disagrees with you is "irrational".

But they don’t because boys are advantaged in Co ed schools. If this point still hasn’t sunk in, I don’t know what will help you to understand. I can do no more.

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With zero experience, zero facts, zero vested interest… just ‘but my DS’ and ‘so mean to boys’.

As irrational as one poster making an assumption and others taking that as fact, simply because they both have the same view on a random topic?

Again, you are ASSUMING.
I will keep pointing that out until you stop doing it.

And how are you NOT assuming by commenting 200 times a minute on something you have no personal experience of?

Boys are not advantaged in CoEd schools though. Have you ignored the wealth of actual information on this?

Why are you insistent that I have no experience? Why do you keep saying something you don't know to be true? Aren't you the one actually trolling?

STEM subjects are critical for research and development and further advances in science and medicine that will benefit the future population. Art not so much. Love art though, and it is important, not disrespecting art at all. But traditionally, girls take up less STEM subjects than boys, due to lack of confidence perhaps, which needs to change.

Like the studies that confirm they get more teacher time, more time to speak, more playground space..?

Let me guess you’ll just reply something vague about ‘equality’ and ‘mean to boys’ and ‘no you’re wrong’ LOL

Where have you got this information from? The asserions of the assuming OP?